Not Starting

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by griston64

I nabbed the spare sender and pump from my breaker 940. Have to say removing that on one of the hottest days of the year in the back of the car was fairly unpleasant.

Be careful with all the connections James as they can get pretty badly corroded.

Three hours later you emerged still breathing 98 octane fumes!

All offers of cigarettes politely declined for several hours afterwards and head feeling like it was in orbit around Mars and/or Saturn and maybe even Jupiter for good measure!

I suppose being the breaker you couldn't open all doors or windows to let the fumes out either?

[volvo always]

Originally Posted by griston64

I nabbed the spare sender and pump from my breaker 940. Have to say removing that on one of the hottest days of the year in the back of the car was fairly unpleasant.

Be careful with all the connections James as they can get pretty badly corroded.

Sounds hell on a hot day! As said fumes and no windows open.

Last thing I want to do is break anything!

James.

[griston64]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Three hours later you emerged still breathing 98 octane fumes!

All offers of cigarettes politely declined for several hours afterwards and head feeling like it was in orbit around Mars and/or Saturn and maybe even Jupiter for good measure!

I suppose being the breaker you couldn't open all doors or windows to let the fumes out either?

I had the tailgate held up with a broomstick but it smashing shut as I kept catching it with my leg. Even with that open it was still boiling and then I started boiling over when it got stuck

[TonyS9]

Originally Posted by volvo always

Thanks everyone, your a star!

It started.

Got a helper to crank the engine over and had voltage for a few seconds on the pink and red wires. 10.7 volts. Strange how low.

Didn't start.

Gave the pump unit a few hits with a rod and hammer and a friend tried starting, and it fired right up! Fantastic! So pleased.

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Glad you got to the bottom of it, always good to confirm with some persuation when it comes back to life. Mine lasted a few weeks of daily drive before total death. The first time I got it going again i was being towed and simply went for the bump start (hadn't tested for pump priming at that point after being stuck at work). I think the higher voltage (not using the starter and with alternator assistance) helped shift the motor. One time it died for 10s on the motorway then came back to life, but it was useful to confirm I was still getting spark with rev counter still working. After that I was testing uphill from the house trying to get it to go faulty so I could confirm the pump wasn't running by ear. Eventually it failed and became grindy when it primed.

[volvo always]

Originally Posted by TonyS9

Glad you got to the bottom of it, always good to confirm with some persuation when it comes back to life. Mine lasted a few weeks of daily drive before total death. The first time I got it going again i was being towed and simply went for the bump start (hadn't tested for pump priming at that point after being stuck at work). I think the higher voltage (not using the starter and with alternator assistance) helped shift the motor. One time it died for 10s on the motorway then came back to life, but it was useful to confirm I was still getting spark with rev counter still working. After that I was testing uphill from the house trying to get it to go faulty so I could confirm the pump wasn't running by ear. Eventually it failed and became grindy when it primed.

Nice to get to the fault, as you say. Thanks for that. Interesting that your pump didn't last long once diagnosed. Just waiting for the new pump.

James.

[volvo always]

Right pump arrived at 1pm.

Had to cut and break off the hose clips as well rusted. Big one around locking ring ok.

Got the pump and sender out after several attempts!

Went out and bought new stainless steel jubilee clips.

Swapped over the new pump and needed new crimp connectors which were supplied.

The new seal hadn't arrived and old pump housing seal was in really good condition, so re-used due to time pressure of MOT tomorrow.

Fitted the pump and sender back in after several attempts and re-screwed on the locking ring. Re connected the pump wiring harness and battery.

Started it up and fired after second crank, so great except the fuel gage was showing no fuel and low fuel light on! Had around a quarter of a tank before!

Decided to drive 5 miles and it stalled going around a roundabout. Thought here we go! Put £40 worth and still gage reading fumes and light on!

This time though not cutting out on right turns round a roundabout!
Decided to get my car valeted, so nice and clean for MOT at 13.30 pm tomorrow.

Started up and fuel gage working and showing nearly 3/4 of a tank. Filled right up (£18.50) and gage now showing full.

Hope that's it sorted. We'll see how it goes.

Many thanks. James

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by volvo always

Right pump arrived at 1pm.

Had to cut and break off the hose clips as well rusted. Big one around locking ring ok.

Got the pump and sender out after several attempts!

Went out and bought new stainless steel jubilee clips.

Swapped over the new pump and needed new crimp connectors which were supplied.

The new seal hadn't arrived and old pump housing seal was in really good condition, so re-used due to time pressure of MOT tomorrow.

Fitted the pump and sender back in after several attempts and re-screwed on the locking ring. Re connected the pump wiring harness and battery.

Started it up and fired after second crank, so great except the fuel gage was showing no fuel and low fuel light on! Had around a quarter of a tank before!

Decided to drive 5 miles and it stalled going around a roundabout. Thought here we go! Put £40 worth and still gage reading fumes and light on!

This time though not cutting out on right turns round a roundabout!
Decided to get my car valeted, so nice and clean for MOT at 13.30 tomorrow.

Started up and fuel gage working and showing nearly 3/4 of a tank. Filled right up (£18.50) and gage now showing full.

Hope that's it sorted. We'll see how it goes.

Many thanks. James

That's good news James! Don't forget to tighten the locking ring in a month or two and give it a couple of whacks tomorrow before the MoT to make sure it doesn't dribble on the testers head! If you have ramps you can simply back up on the ramps, crawl under with your hammer and batten and from the bottom of the locking ring tap it tighter by hitting the wood towards the passenger side.

Good luck for the test, fingers crossed!

[volvo always]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

That's good news James! Don't forget to tighten the locking ring in a month or two and give it a couple of whacks tomorrow before the MoT to make sure it doesn't dribble on the testers head! If you have ramps you can simply back up on the ramps, crawl under with your hammer and batten and from the bottom of the locking ring tap it tighter by hitting the wood towards the passenger side.

Good luck for the test, fingers crossed!

Will check it tomorrow as well as lights and top up the windscreen washer reservoir.

The worst part was breaking and cutting the rusty jubilee clips without damaging the stubs! Must of took an hour on one alone, the fuel filler pipe. the one hose had enough length so just cut it off. Then once pump out used a stanley knife and slit it along the length to get it off the stub without breaking it.

Hope it goes straight through the MOT like the last 3 years without advisories. I'll update!

Many thanks everyone for your help, it's been invaluable.

James.