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Old Oct 1st, 2020, 16:37   #101
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It would hurt big oil's pocketbook!!
Would it though George?

If my theory is right then it wouldn't as people would be buying more fuel as a result.

If your theory is right then the oil companies would get prolonged revenue.

Win-win for big oil!

Meanwhile the elite get prolonged or short term higher fuel duty and the nation become a big herd of sheep dawdling along at a maximum of 60mph. I forget the term for which sort of conditioning this is but it's yet another form of brainwashing.

When people are conditioned to follow the masses, that is all they see, all they think and become like lemmings.

Think "Hate Week" from 1984....................
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The phrase, For the greater good, is one that should be heard with terror by all right thinking individuals.
The phrase 'right thinking individuals' should be heard with terror by all who are capable of thinking for themselves.

It is almost without exception the phrase used by someone who wants to impose their set of values and their belief system on you, as theirs are 'right' so therefore any opposing views must be 'wrong', So there's very little point in attempting to discuss a different viewpoint with them.

Unless of course you were making a right/left political point. In which case as a bit of a lefty, I might be inclined to agree with you.
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Would it though George?

If my theory is right then it wouldn't as people would be buying more fuel as a result.

If your theory is right then the oil companies would get prolonged revenue.

Win-win for big oil!

Meanwhile the elite get prolonged or short term higher fuel duty and the nation become a big herd of sheep dawdling along at a maximum of 60mph. I forget the term for which sort of conditioning this is but it's yet another form of brainwashing.

When people are conditioned to follow the masses, that is all they see, all they think and become like lemmings.

Think "Hate Week" from 1984....................
They get prolonged profit of a finite product so yes, it would hit them as their week in, week out profits would dip. Yes, they would get it for longer, but shareholders want results now. And im on about a global limitation of fossil fuel usesge. Nothing concentrates the mind like the inevitability of lost revenue, the car companies would be forced to design ever more frugal cars and the power companies to come up with safe alternatives. There will be a seismic shift in fossil fuel issue, it is imperative it is managed properly or the contrast will prove too much for many of the worlds lodgers.

For me the masses are those who are in denial. They exist in far higher numbers than those willing to change
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Old Oct 1st, 2020, 18:28   #104
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They get prolonged profit of a finite product so yes, it would hit them as their week in, week out profits would dip. Yes, they would get it for longer, but shareholders want results now. And im on about a global limitation of fossil fuel usesge. Nothing concentrates the mind like the inevitability of lost revenue, the car companies would be forced to design ever more frugal cars and the power companies to come up with safe alternatives. There will be a seismic shift in fossil fuel issue, it is imperative it is managed properly or the contrast will prove too much for many of the worlds lodgers.

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That's the most sense you've made for a very long time George - you always make sense IMHO except for the times you deliberately don't but that is one of most poignant responses.

Just to add a little bit to it, i honestly don't believe dropping the motorway speed limit to 60mph will have any appreciable effect on firstly emissions (it might even send them up but that's for a different discussion as to why) and secondly on the global mangement of fossil fuel products.

I also don't believe EVs are a viable proposition long term either, they are the zeit-geist at the moment but in a few years time people will wonder what they were thinking. Again, that's for a different discussion.
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We (that horrible collective) could go nuclear.
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The phrase 'right thinking individuals' should be heard with terror by all who are capable of thinking for themselves.

It is almost without exception the phrase used by someone who wants to impose their set of values and their belief system on you, as theirs are 'right' so therefore any opposing views must be 'wrong', So there's very little point in attempting to discuss a different viewpoint with them.

Unless of course you were making a right/left political point. In which case as a bit of a lefty, I might be inclined to agree with you.
Apologies. I define right thinking as those that think for themselves and draw their own conclusions.

I should of been clearer.

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We (that horrible collective) could go nuclear.
Many will if they get messed around much more.

Again a differing interpretation of nuclear. Explosive rage rather than atom splitting.

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They get prolonged profit of a finite product so yes, it would hit them as their week in, week out profits would dip. Yes, they would get it for longer, but shareholders want results now. And im on about a global limitation of fossil fuel usesge. Nothing concentrates the mind like the inevitability of lost revenue, the car companies would be forced to design ever more frugal cars and the power companies to come up with safe alternatives. There will be a seismic shift in fossil fuel issue, it is imperative it is managed properly or the contrast will prove too much for many of the worlds lodgers.

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It's inertia George. Why really invent the wheel until you have too?

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We (that horrible collective) could go nuclear.
I suspect that may well happen, a mini-nuclear reactor, anti-gravity engine, plasma drive or ionic drive or perhaps even some sort of electromagnetic drive although that might interfere with the anti-gravity engine.

A mini-nuclear reactor would be the ideal thing to produce the energy needed for that but then we're still back to plundering the earth for the materials to not only build but fuel the thing.
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It's inertia George. Why really invent the wheel until you have too?

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Because we do have too? Times ticking
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