Parking heater (pre-heating car)

[rowleyd3]

Hi,

Well, its that time of year again and my thoughts are going back to a parking heater to pre-warm the car (a 2005 D5 185 auto for info)

I've done a few searches and found contradicting info about whether UK cars have a webasto (or equiv) heater fitted. Also whether they are just an auxiliary unit to speed warming or whether they can be modified as per our continental cousins - to allow remote operation/warming.

Anyone have any definitive info/prices/part numbers?

Thanks,

Darren.

[youngcantt]

I've been looking at installing one on my V70 D5.

The Volvo part can be brought for around £1325.00, this one can be fitted with a remote, but I've also noticed that Webasto heater can also be fitted with a remote. The cost for the Webasto is around £900 with installation costs between £450 to £600. The main problem with not fitting a Volvo heater is that, there needs to be more mods done to get it to fit.

The following part numbers are for the Volvo Heater, Connection Kit and Software

Fuel-driven heater 912-B/D - 02-

Op. No.: 87516
IMG-204782

Base kit

Part. No. Description

30661 775-4 02-, 912-D, Diesel










+ Installation kit S60, S60 R, V70, V70 R, XC70



Part. No.



31267 436-9 09-, 5-cyl, excl. M66, Gasoline
Part. No. Description











+ Heater & time, application1
Part. No. Description

9438 242-1 Diesel














+ Accessory manual for residual heater
Part. No.
9172 635-6
Technical data

Type


912-B


912-D

Working medium:


Water


Water

Output:


4700 W


4700 W

Fuel:


Gasoline


Diesel

Fuel consumption (during continuous operation):


0.65 liters/hour (0.17 gallons/hour)


0.6 liters/hour (0.16 gallons/hour)

Power consumption, output (excl. passenger compartment fan):


30 W


30 W

Voltage nominal:


12 V


12 V

Voltage range:


10.5 – 14 V


10.5 – 14 V

Operating temperature:


-40 – +80 °C (-40 – +176 °F)


-40 – +80 °C (-40 – +176 °F)

Dimensions:


290 x 120 mm (11.4 x 4.7 in)


290 x 120 mm (11.4 x 4.7 in)

Hope this helps,

Chris

[reggie59]

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that must be fantastic and pb good for engine life (remove start with cold engine, no?)... but £1,300 plus fitting plus Vat? pb talking £2k in total? No wonder it is not very common in the uk

[rowleyd3]

Thanks Chris,

I was hoping it was more like other cars where its fitted as a auxiliary heater and just needed modifying at a cost of sub £500 - so £2k rules it out for me.

Thanks for the info anyway.

Darren.

[Lycanthrope]

Is this an option that can be specified on the XC90 from new?

I've searched the standard equipment list and options, but can't find anything...

[youngcantt]

Originally Posted by Lycanthrope

Is this an option that can be specified on the XC90 from new?

I've searched the standard equipment list and options, but can't find anything...

In Europe it can be fitted as an option, I've been told that as an option it's only about £400-£500. (When fitted new). The dealer may never of heard of it in the UK, (I had to explain to the parts department what it was, before he could search for it!!).

[youngcantt]

Originally Posted by rowleyd3

Thanks Chris,

I was hoping it was more like other cars where its fitted as a auxiliary heater and just needed modifying at a cost of sub £500 - so £2k rules it out for me.

Thanks for the info anyway.

Darren.

Same here!!

Recently tried to buy a new wing mirror through Volvo --- Quoted £280.00!!! Don't know why everything is sooo expensive!??

[bburkie10]

does this pre heater need the engine on? if it is i think the reason its not available in the uk is to do with the law regarding the engine running with the car unoccupied. (i know you can get remote start alarm and things so i dont know its true or not but i have read it some where).

[youngcantt]

Originally Posted by bburkie10

does this pre heater need the engine on? if it is i think the reason its not available in the uk is to do with the law regarding the engine running with the car unoccupied. (i know you can get remote start alarm and things so i dont know its true or not but i have read it some where).

No, it doesn't need the engine running, that's the whole point of it, it warms the engine and passenger compartment before the engine is started.

I've since been told, the reason it can't be fitted to UK cars is because, where it is fitted on the car is where something to do with the emmisions for the UK is fitted. I've looked in the engine bay of mine and checked it with the haynes manual of where it should be fitted, and so far can't see anything that will be in the way. I don't know if this is age related, where possibly older cars could still have it fitted.

This maybe where fitting a non Volvo heater would be better as it can be placed in another location.

[400-ascona]

Kenlowe that do an after market kit. It does rely on access to a main electrical supply.

Sales pitch from web site:

KENLOWE INTERIOR PRE-HEATING SYSTEM THE ULTIMATE COMFORT AND CONVENIENCE
(FOR HOTSTART Pt.No HS5 UNSUITABLE FOR HS6 50°C)
The KENLOWE interior pre-heater control pack incorporates "state of the art" sensors monitoring the coolant temperature to turn the vehicle interior heater fan on when the engine and heater systems have been pre-heated to 75°C - the result is an interior pre-heated to the same comfortable temperature as your home and all the windows demisted and de-iced. All this can be programmed on your domestic appliance timer to occur automatically ready for your departure and makes your vehicle a home away from home even on a short journey! Real luxury and convenience to keep you in the style to which you have become accustomed! Pre-heating the interior also saves pounds on de-icing chemicals which can and do smear the glass and limit vision for weeks - this is particularly apparent during night driving whilst having to use the wipers. Engine pre-heating will follow the normal procedure, however the heating cycle will be approximately one-third longer (when the interior pre-heater is not in use the vehicle's heater controls and heater operate normally). Installation requires, in addition to the engine pre-heater, electrical connections to the vehicle interior heater controls behind the facia and fitment of the switch sensing module within the hose adaptor into the heater hose line. The combined engine and INTERIOR pre-heating system can be fitted by specialised installation centres or on vehicles with easy access to the back of the dashboard and the heater fan, by a competent D.l.Y. person.

This is an extra cost option incorporated inside the appliance and should be specified when ordering. (Windscreen airflow outlets should be turned off at below -20°C).

HEATER ELEMENT
The AC 220/240-volt heater element is a double helical coil for compactness and incorporates automatic temperature cycling between 85°C (+-) and 75°C (+-). Effectively the heater is in operation up to 85°C when it cuts off - should your departure be delayed and the temperature drops to 75°C the appliance will re-cycle to maintain optimum temperature! The standard specification includes a 2700 min / 3000. max Watt heater:- lower wattages are available e.g. 2000W 9amp for areas of Europe with limited amperage available.

RECIRCULATING PUMP
The pump circulates hot water around entire engine and heater; yet as a recirculation (not pressure) pump it presents no obstruction to the engine/heater coolant when the engine is running and the pre-heater is not in use. The integral pump has a patented shaded pole rotor running in coolant, the stator is in an adjacent but separate section so that the magnetic field can be completed whilst allowing the design to avoid any glands or seals. The patented KENLOWE pump ensures efficient distribution of the heat and avoids what would otherwise be mainly hopeful reliance on convected or thermo syphon heat transfer which, because of poor distribution, could only be of limited watts. This would significantly limit the temperature the engine can be heated to.

WATER CONNECTIONS
Six feet of heater hose, hose connectors and hose clips are supplied.

ELECTRICAL CONNECTIONS
The electrical connections comprise a purpose made weatherproof plug with spring loaded cap to international standards. The cable is sheathed for protection and moulded to the plug at each end. A weatherproof socket is supplied for fitment to the users own extension lead.