New B230 Engine???

MATHIUS · May 29th, 2009, 15:39

Hi all,

Can you still get new bare B230et/ft lumps from volvo? The reason being is that my lovely old 740 Turbo is getting a little tired now and I was going to get the bottom end completely rebuilt. But I was gonna price up a new bare engine (No auxillaries) and compare the two.
I use to work for vauxhall and the trade club had big discounts on the older engines ie: 1.6 8v for £500+vat!
Wasn't sure if volvo would do the same for older parts?
Any ideas would be grateful!

Clan · May 29th, 2009, 19:24

I would guess you could still get one , but is your engine worn? Whats wrong with it , what do you mean a little tired? I wouldnt be surprised if when it was dismanted there would be no measurable wear to the bores or crankshaft . Best leave it alone if its running ok and not using much oil ... These engines dont really wear out , you have the best pistons you can have which are expensive Mahle and also a hardened crankshaft .
If you do happen to have a problem with the engine it would certainly be worth risking fitting a second hand one and carrying on another 200000 miles or so ..

Chesh740R · Jun 13th, 2009, 00:54

A 740 Turbo I bought had recently had a reman***tured engine from volvo fitted, If i recall the invoice for the Long Block, was something like £1350.

I'm sure they might still be available, ask rufe on here for a quote for one.

Steve and his 244 · Jun 13th, 2009, 10:43

Sorry if this is a dumb question (and a slight threadjack), but why is the word remanufactured blanked out in your post chesh?

mikealder · Jun 13th, 2009, 13:34

Probably a typo that the boards auto censor has picked up on would be my guess - Mike

Rufe · Jun 25th, 2009, 11:24

i just did a quick check,

B230ET - Expired
B230FT/GT - Backorder (available) P/n: 5003653 exchange unit

unfortunately the good news ends there, as your looking at a retail price of just over £2500 including vat, our trade price is only 5% less (hardly any margin in engines at all from volvo), plus delivery, and return of the old unit as its an exchange item.

These new engines do not include flywheel casing, flywheel, thermostat, water pipes, manifolds, fuel pump, starter motor, distributor, alternator, crank ventilation.

Simon

cumbrianmale · Jun 25th, 2009, 13:25

So that will be a rebore and 1st oversize rings then. Maybe some new shell bearings too.

T240 · Jun 25th, 2009, 19:56

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rufe

i just did a quick check,

B230ET - Expired
B230FT/GT - Backorder (available) P/n: 5003653 exchange unit

unfortunately the good news ends there, as your looking at a retail price of just over £2500 including vat, our trade price is only 5% less (hardly any margin in engines at all from volvo), plus delivery, and return of the old unit as its an exchange item.

These new engines do not include flywheel casing, flywheel, thermostat, water pipes, manifolds, fuel pump, starter motor, distributor, alternator, crank ventilation.

Simon

Wow!

Just for curiosity,Rufe, how much is the 3 litre six (960 type)?

Luckily I don't need one, but it would be good to know.

Cheers,

T

MATHIUS · Jun 25th, 2009, 20:12

Hi all,

Thank you for your help. Phoned my local engine specialist who is rather good at rebuilds, He is currently working out a price for the various parts for the rebuild. Although, he's having trouble getting a price for the pistons for some reason, Will let you know how I get on!

RollingThunder · Jul 17th, 2009, 10:31

Not sure if you've had this job done now, but have you considered a used B230FK engine - these are identical to the B230FT but run at lower boost (the turbo actuator is different). Otherwise its all the same - stronger late block, plus piston oil squirters too! Everything is the same - cylinderhead, pistons, crank, even the camshaft (T profile).

I picked one up on eBay for my old 944 a few years ago - paid £150 for it including delivery - and it was a 90K engine with FVSH. He'd pulled it out to fit a diesel engine. When I stripped it down it was like new - no wear at all. Even the engine paint was fresh.

All you'd need to do is use your existing turbo and ancilliaries and you'd have an as good as new engine.

May 29th, 2009, 15:39	#1
MATHIUS Volvo for life . . . Last Online: Jan 15th, 2024 21:55 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Lapford, Devon View Photos By: MATHIUS	New B230 Engine??? Hi all, Can you still get new bare B230et/ft lumps from volvo? The reason being is that my lovely old 740 Turbo is getting a little tired now and I was going to get the bottom end completely rebuilt. But I was gonna price up a new bare engine (No auxillaries) and compare the two. I use to work for vauxhall and the trade club had big discounts on the older engines ie: 1.6 8v for £500+vat! Wasn't sure if volvo would do the same for older parts? Any ideas would be grateful! __________________ Regards, Matt. 91 (J) 940 2.3 Turbo (170-bhp) 95 (N) 960 3.0 24v CD (204-bhp) 11 (11) XC90 2.4 SE LUX (200-bhp) 90' (H) 245 2.3 GLT

May 29th, 2009, 19:24	#2
Clan Experienced Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:07 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L/H side	I would guess you could still get one , but is your engine worn? Whats wrong with it , what do you mean a little tired? I wouldnt be surprised if when it was dismanted there would be no measurable wear to the bores or crankshaft . Best leave it alone if its running ok and not using much oil ... These engines dont really wear out , you have the best pistons you can have which are expensive Mahle and also a hardened crankshaft . If you do happen to have a problem with the engine it would certainly be worth risking fitting a second hand one and carrying on another 200000 miles or so .. __________________ My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience .

Jun 25th, 2009, 11:24	#6
Rufe TRADER Last Online: Sep 16th, 2016 14:55 Join Date: May 2006 Location: FRF Volvo, Swansea (Volvo Main Dealer)	i just did a quick check, B230ET - Expired B230FT/GT - Backorder (available) P/n: 5003653 exchange unit unfortunately the good news ends there, as your looking at a retail price of just over £2500 including vat, our trade price is only 5% less (hardly any margin in engines at all from volvo), plus delivery, and return of the old unit as its an exchange item. These new engines do not include flywheel casing, flywheel, thermostat, water pipes, manifolds, fuel pump, starter motor, distributor, alternator, crank ventilation. Simon __________________ Please Click HERE to read our Feedback... // OR, Click HERE to read our FAQ's... <<< FOR ALL ENQUIRIES PHONE: 01792 790066 / 01792 784272 >>> * YOU MUST QUOTE 'C3' WHEN CALLING FOR OUR BEST PRICES! (weekdays 9am to 5pm) *

Jun 25th, 2009, 13:25	#7
cumbrianmale Forum Support Team Last Online: Yesterday 20:36 Join Date: Mar 2006 Location: Deep in Makem territory	So that will be a rebore and 1st oversize rings then. Maybe some new shell bearings too. __________________ Current 04 S80 D5 SE Auto 03 S80 D5 SE Man Previous Volvos 90 240 GL B230FB Auto 96 940 CD 13 V40 D2 R-design 89 745 GLE 98 V90 3.0 24v 98 945 Celebration Auto 96 965 SE Auto 86 744 GL 81 244 DL

Jun 25th, 2009, 20:12	#9
MATHIUS Volvo for life . . . Last Online: Jan 15th, 2024 21:55 Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Lapford, Devon View Photos By: MATHIUS	New B230 Engine??? Hi all, Thank you for your help. Phoned my local engine specialist who is rather good at rebuilds, He is currently working out a price for the various parts for the rebuild. Although, he's having trouble getting a price for the pistons for some reason, Will let you know how I get on! __________________ Regards, Matt. 91 (J) 940 2.3 Turbo (170-bhp) 95 (N) 960 3.0 24v CD (204-bhp) 11 (11) XC90 2.4 SE LUX (200-bhp) 90' (H) 245 2.3 GLT

Jun 13th, 2009, 00:54	#3
Chesh740R Turbobricker Last Online: May 10th, 2024 21:36 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Wellingborough	A 740 Turbo I bought had recently had a reman***tured engine from volvo fitted, If i recall the invoice for the Long Block, was something like £1350. I'm sure they might still be available, ask rufe on here for a quote for one.

Jun 13th, 2009, 13:34	#5
mikealder VOC Member Last Online: Nov 6th, 2016 10:18 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Blackpool UK	Probably a typo that the boards auto censor has picked up on would be my guess - Mike

Jul 17th, 2009, 10:31	#10
RollingThunder Grumpy Old Git Last Online: Apr 19th, 2024 09:16 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: South Yorkshire View Photos By: RollingThunder	Just a thought... Not sure if you've had this job done now, but have you considered a used B230FK engine - these are identical to the B230FT but run at lower boost (the turbo actuator is different). Otherwise its all the same - stronger late block, plus piston oil squirters too! Everything is the same - cylinderhead, pistons, crank, even the camshaft (T profile). I picked one up on eBay for my old 944 a few years ago - paid £150 for it including delivery - and it was a 90K engine with FVSH. He'd pulled it out to fit a diesel engine. When I stripped it down it was like new - no wear at all. Even the engine paint was fresh. All you'd need to do is use your existing turbo and ancilliaries and you'd have an as good as new engine. __________________ S40 2.4i '07 Japanese import '96 850R - https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=312484 Ex Danish Embassy '96 940 GLE LPT - https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=326071

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