Loss of power - Enigne syrtem service required - Page 3

JIMBOfred · Jul 19th, 2013, 10:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by x DTR x

Sure its not flap in throttle stuck open? Common issue, usually when its hot!

Could be. I had read about this on another thread.
Where is the throttle body?

JIMBOfred · Jul 19th, 2013, 10:55

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?p=1202554

Ah. I'm guessing this would be a good place to start.
Could I just remove the pipe on the front to check it and possibly free it up?
That way I could get it done temporarily before I drive home.

JIMBOfred · Jul 19th, 2013, 12:18

I've just had the pipe off and the throttle flap is moving fine. Bit gutted as that would have been an easy fix. Just checked the oil again and it has lost just over 500ml from yesterday. It's never lost oil on me before. I can see a little bit dripping down from the back of the engine.

JIMBOfred · Jul 19th, 2013, 12:20

Quote:

Originally Posted by SonyVaio

are you definitely getting lighter as opposed to darker smoke?

Definitely light yes.

eethon · Jul 19th, 2013, 14:48

The turbo is behind the engine, perhaps the seals have gone?

White smoke can be water, that mixed with your oil loss could point to a head gasket.

It can also be un-atomised un-burned diesel and the BBQ smell you describe would fit that hypothesis.

If it were not for the oil loss I would say you have a sticking (open) injector or two. As that was my issue but I never lost any oil and 1/2 liter is a lot to loose in a short time.

eethon · Jul 19th, 2013, 14:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by JIMBOfred

I've just had the pipe off and the throttle flap is moving fine. Bit gutted as that would have been an easy fix. Just checked the oil again and it has lost just over 500ml from yesterday. It's never lost oil on me before. I can see a little bit dripping down from the back of the engine.

It can be hard to detect the throttle flap sticking, it will move freely up until the very extremes of its travel. Mine moved freely until it got completely shut and then it would occasionally stick there.

JIMBOfred · Jul 19th, 2013, 19:09

I managed to get it to a garage but they wouldn't bother putting the diagnostics on as the oil and smoke etc. was a clear turbo malfunction. My father-in-law knows some turbo specialist who might be able to have a look and may do a bit of a favour. Fingers crossed.
Cheers for all the help guys.

SonyVaio · Jul 19th, 2013, 22:00

Bugger!

When you said it was white/light smoke it was then clear it wasn't just a pipe split. It's unfortunate to hear of your turbo demise. What is your current mileage and what sort of service history has the car got??

Turbo's can and do fail but in real terms it is not a common problem depending on mileage and how it has been used and serviced. Clearly the damage will have been done prior to you obtaining the car but do you let the car run for a minute before driving off and also when stopped and before turning the engine off (run down period)? This can prolong the life of a turbo, as well as NOT revving hard before the engine is up to temperature.

Hope you get sorted soon enough.

JIMBOfred · Jul 22nd, 2013, 10:44

Its got 120000 miles on it btu a full service history from volvo. I got it in december at 140000 miles but have pretty much done none of the above. Never had a turbo before so was maybe getting a little carried away. Lesson learned.
Guessing its not that easy to get the turbo off but I have a have a few weeks off now. Can it be done on a driveway?

JIMBOfred · Jul 22nd, 2013, 12:09

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...ighlight=turbo

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=158229

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=161647

I'll put these here so I don't lose them.

Jul 19th, 2013, 10:55	#22
JIMBOfred Junior Member Last Online: Mar 13th, 2018 13:11 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: St Helens	http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?p=1202554 Ah. I'm guessing this would be a good place to start. Could I just remove the pipe on the front to check it and possibly free it up? That way I could get it done temporarily before I drive home.

Jul 19th, 2013, 12:18	#23
JIMBOfred Junior Member Last Online: Mar 13th, 2018 13:11 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: St Helens	I've just had the pipe off and the throttle flap is moving fine. Bit gutted as that would have been an easy fix. Just checked the oil again and it has lost just over 500ml from yesterday. It's never lost oil on me before. I can see a little bit dripping down from the back of the engine.

Jul 19th, 2013, 14:48	#25
eethon Member Last Online: Nov 28th, 2017 15:59 Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: Kent	The turbo is behind the engine, perhaps the seals have gone? White smoke can be water, that mixed with your oil loss could point to a head gasket. It can also be un-atomised un-burned diesel and the BBQ smell you describe would fit that hypothesis. If it were not for the oil loss I would say you have a sticking (open) injector or two. As that was my issue but I never lost any oil and 1/2 liter is a lot to loose in a short time.

Jul 19th, 2013, 19:09	#27
JIMBOfred Junior Member Last Online: Mar 13th, 2018 13:11 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: St Helens	I managed to get it to a garage but they wouldn't bother putting the diagnostics on as the oil and smoke etc. was a clear turbo malfunction. My father-in-law knows some turbo specialist who might be able to have a look and may do a bit of a favour. Fingers crossed. Cheers for all the help guys.

Jul 19th, 2013, 22:00	#28
SonyVaio VOC Member Last Online: Feb 26th, 2016 19:58 Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Exmouth	Bugger! When you said it was white/light smoke it was then clear it wasn't just a pipe split. It's unfortunate to hear of your turbo demise. What is your current mileage and what sort of service history has the car got?? Turbo's can and do fail but in real terms it is not a common problem depending on mileage and how it has been used and serviced. Clearly the damage will have been done prior to you obtaining the car but do you let the car run for a minute before driving off and also when stopped and before turning the engine off (run down period)? This can prolong the life of a turbo, as well as NOT revving hard before the engine is up to temperature. Hope you get sorted soon enough.

Jul 22nd, 2013, 10:44	#29
JIMBOfred Junior Member Last Online: Mar 13th, 2018 13:11 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: St Helens	Its got 120000 miles on it btu a full service history from volvo. I got it in december at 140000 miles but have pretty much done none of the above. Never had a turbo before so was maybe getting a little carried away. Lesson learned. Guessing its not that easy to get the turbo off but I have a have a few weeks off now. Can it be done on a driveway?

Jul 22nd, 2013, 12:09	#30
JIMBOfred Junior Member Last Online: Mar 13th, 2018 13:11 Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: St Helens	http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...ighlight=turbo http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=158229 http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=161647 I'll put these here so I don't lose them.

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