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May 12th, 2019, 20:38 | #41 | |
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Makes perfect sense to me, you should have a job in town centre, shopping centre planning.
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May 13th, 2019, 00:07 | #42 |
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Thanks, it's just common sense really, something that seems to go out the window in Planing Depts these days!
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May 13th, 2019, 06:50 | #43 | |
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It doesn't sit comfortably with me that there's this unique VIP club to which you can only get membership by peculiar social rules. Where there is genuine need, I agree entirely. Where it's just a PR exercise (which i strongly suspect) and where statistical targets must be met (which I also strongly suspect) you end up with shoddy design: An entire row of disabled spaces, the furthest of which are more remote from the door than the nearest "ordinary" spaces in the next row. But still I don't like the idea of their being "normal" and then "disabled" (read: privaliged) spaces at all. It would be fair to say that with so many disablities being recognise today, and almost everyone breeds at some point, it would appear to me that the amount of disabled spaces and parent spaces is nowhere near sufficient. So should we have more? If we're mapping the demographic properly, I would argue there's not many ordinary people around really. So we shouldn't need many ordinary spaces. Throughout our society, more and more we are realising there's not really any "ordinary" folk at all. Everyone has some kind of disability. Mental health, allergies, food intollerances, flickering lights, sensory overload, agoraphobia, whatever.... There is a whole wealth of maladies to choose from. We need to get away from the idea of "most are normal, a few are not", and the whole set-aside bit of parking for those with "special" needs just isn't really appropriate in today's world. Different people have different needs, some are documented, some are not, some have doctor's notes, some people refuse them, the needs are as diverse as the people. Just make the f'kin spaces bigger and then everyone can manage. Nobody is normal. |
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May 13th, 2019, 09:12 | #44 | |
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Do the maths on floor area needed not forgetting to take into account increased turning room and you should get a figure, whether it's twice the size, 3 times or what i haven't bothered to work out. Also don't forget to factor in extra space between the cars so doors can be opened easily without risking damage to the car next door. The point is, modern cars are now bigger, longer, wider and heavier than their 50-60 year old counterparts yet parking spaces have remained the same size during that time. As for saying that being disabled is a VIP club, many people would take that out of context and give you grief for that - however, take it in the context of the other things you've said and it makes more sense. The big point is as you sum up with - make all the spaces bigger.
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May 13th, 2019, 09:21 | #45 |
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Agreed, 'LS'. At one time, as you say, a Volvo estate, be it a 1, 2 or 7/9 series car, stood out in the car park. We would say: "There it is over there, behind that Mini." when looking for our car in a crowded car park. Now, our current V70 is dwarfed by many other vehicles; relatively, it is no longer a 'big' car!
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That phrase is still making me chuckle
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May 13th, 2019, 09:49 | #47 |
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Of course making the spaces a bit bigger in town centres would mean less parking, so less cars travelling into the town centre's, less pollution & bravo we could have met the pollution reduction targets without the need to introduce Pollution Charges. Strictly TIC of course.
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May 13th, 2019, 10:29 | #48 |
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I’ve been in some car parks where there are marked spaces between the bays and the spaces themselves are big enough to fit a Vivaro in easily. For me, this is the way to go especially when I’ve gotta unload tools etc. It’d be great to see more like this.
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May 13th, 2019, 10:38 | #49 |
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On my way to a job, hauling a little trailer, I decided I needed coffee. A sign beckoned me into a commercial district of large carparks surrounded by gigantic sheds, Costa! I love costa coffee!
So there I am, bouncing over the speed humps, traversing various styles and all manners of different blockwork, trying to distinguish between road markings and "classy" versions of same made of different types of stone, and trying not to collide with a generic hatchback and not to run over a generic child.... I decided on a spot, it was next to a grass verge so it was longer than the rest. I'd be in there, trailer and all, and I'll be out of everyone's way. Trouble is, it was a disabled space. I got away with it. But I can imagine the argument if someone had decided to kick up a stink ... I mean, sure, I might not be disabled (at least not physically) but I do have a trailer which needs to park somewhere. I can't just leave it hanging out into the thoroughfare, can I? Different people have different needs. I just feel it's unfair to rigidly class people into types. I mean, I wasn't there long. Just got me coffee and left. No harm done. BUT.... This dumb piece of painted asphalt apparently can make better decisions than me. |
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May 13th, 2019, 10:48 | #50 | |
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I doubt it! They'll all be driving around in ever decreasing circles trying to find somewhere else to park. And, at the same time, these 'out of town shopping centres' have so many parking spaces such that people are too scared of how far they might have to walk to get to the actual shops! Or... they are so scared to use them on the grounds they might forget where they actually parked the car and not know where to find it!
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