Back in the T4

[Volvo2002]

Originally Posted by mitchyboy01

Keith is a good help to those on the forum and has offered me good advice and on one occasion has gone out of his way to help me. So I really appreciate this, although our opinions differ at times.

I find sometimes, Keiths opinion of doing everything by the book doesn't always wash with others on the forum. Although in an ideal world, where money was no object Keith is right but most of us are on a budget. If our cars were nearly new and worth a lot of money then replace with all genuine parts by all means and do everything by the book. Most people who buy a T4 buy because it's a very cheap performance bargain and do a lot of the work themselves as a hobby. They simply cannot afford to pay full price for new parts and see it's not worth spending all that cash on a car worth a grand. I will always take a risk with some used parts as I can't afford to tune my car and buy all genuine parts for general maintenance. From research on the forums and my own mistakes, I've found what parts are worth going genuine, mainly parts that are not easily accessible if they fail. eg headgasket. Things like a fuel pump which takes 20mins to change if it begins to fail or an ICV, BCS why not take a chance if it's a 10th of the price. Half the Volvo's on the forums, even the good ones, have used parts fitted at some point.
Also a lot of used parts are fitted due to troubleshooting. If you went out and bought 5 genuine items before you found the true problem then you'd be bankrupt in no time.

Just my 2cents.

Very much agree with what you say. Similar happened when I bought a used FPR instead of a new FPR. I simply couldn't afford to buy the brand new genuine part and apparently I liked an unreliable car or something along those lines...

Honestly if I had the money I'd be buying all volvo genuine parts, who wouldn't? Money is extremely tight right now for me, so compromise has to be made.

[T4Rick]

Originally Posted by Volvo2002

Very much agree with what you say. Similar happened when I bought a used FPR instead of a new FPR. I simply couldn't afford to buy the brand new genuine part and apparently I liked an unreliable car or something along those lines...

Honestly if I had the money I'd be buying all volvo genuine parts, who wouldn't? Money is extremely tight right now for me, so compromise has to be made.

Well said and i agree with what you say mate

[puntodan]

Originally Posted by T4Rick

Wow what a read.Im affended by you calling me a loser and being incompetence im no loser.Im a well educated man i qualifyed as a mechanic back in the late 90s and im back at college in the evenings furthering my education to better myself. I never did not follow it through afterwards due to circumstances which i wont go into.Im from a ford back ground where carbs was,single point injection and multi point injection.I dont no everything and technology has changed over the years and is doing every day.I really like my volvos i dont go round polishing the badge everyday or get bufty with it like some do on here.I like to have have with it and with this T4 i plan to do track days with it and have fun ,not stick it in the garage and never use it.I really do regret getting rid of my last T4 and the day it went i really missed it and i new i wanted another,I tried an 850 saloon which i enjoyed from my teenage days when you could get away with alot and not worry about a thing.The 850 saloon was a 2.5 auto which i converted to a T5 manual all by myself with no help and did a full wiring loom change ,why you might ask well i enjoyed the fun of making something and driving it which i had to break in the end because i needed the money,why your proberly thinking,well let me tell you .I had to down side house this year with mortgages getting expensive and it was the car or my house and family,so the car had to go.i dont go round changing cars every week Keith.So i got this T4 and it isnt mint by a long shot i can tell you that its got its problems and im sorting them as i go and im enjoying doing it.I am gonna strip stuff out of it to the way i like it like the(AIRCON) and other things.Ive owned performance vechiles over the years such as fiesta rs turbos,escort rs turbos,and they was heavily tuned and they didnt run on 98 ron they got normal fuel like 4 star or normal unleaded with octane booster.I do no what i am talking about i dont no everything i learn no things everyday,i dont mind critism one bit i will take it on the chin im no mard ar*e and i aint perfect either

I agree with a few bits there, I too grew up around old fords and twin weber carbs and I still have that in my life as I own a highly modified Mk1 escort and many of my friends have escorts, anglia's and cortinas etc. All running different engines from a tuned crossflow to a full on N/A YB cosworth. The year before last we put together a Zetec Turbo on megasquirt management and it's making 350+ BHP and runs a 12 second 1/4 mile at the pod on road tyres so I have learnt a lot about turbo's and mapping from that hence why I bought the T4 to have sopme fun with!

You say you had RS Turbo's that you ran on normal pump fuel (95 RON) that ran fine, but you added octane booster to it!? So really you were sticking in super unleaded (98+RON) fuel in it so another contradiction of what youre saying!

I am not 'out to get you' neither is anyone else on here but you ask questions, people answer and then you talk to them like there dirt or if what they say is not what you want to hear! Why do you think when you open the fuel flap on the t4 there is a big sticker there that says USE 98 RON FUEL ONLY?!

I understand what you are trying to do and selling the cars etc. to get by and that but maybe you shuold take a moment to think before you reply or re read what you have written before you post it. People are hear to help, we all share the same passion so lets all try and get along and enjoy it instaed of getting our handbags out at dawn!

Dan

[T4Rick]

Originally Posted by puntodan

I agree with a few bits there, I too grew up around old fords and twin weber carbs and I still have that in my life as I own a highly modified Mk1 escort and many of my friends have escorts, anglia's and cortinas etc. All running different engines from a tuned crossflow to a full on N/A YB cosworth. The year before last we put together a Zetec Turbo on megasquirt management and it's making 350+ BHP and runs a 12 second 1/4 mile at the pod on road tyres so I have learnt a lot about turbo's and mapping from that hence why I bought the T4 to have sopme fun with!

You say you had RS Turbo's that you ran on normal pump fuel (95 RON) that ran fine, but you added octane booster to it!? So really you were sticking in super unleaded (98+RON) fuel in it so another contradiction of what youre saying!

I am not 'out to get you' neither is anyone else on here but you ask questions, people answer and then you talk to them like there dirt or if what they say is not what you want to hear! Why do you think when you open the fuel flap on the t4 there is a big sticker there that says USE 98 RON FUEL ONLY?!

I understand what you are trying to do and selling the cars etc. to get by and that but maybe you shuold take a moment to think before you reply or re read what you have written before you post it. People are hear to help, we all share the same passion so lets all try and get along and enjoy it instaed of getting our handbags out at dawn!

Dan

My fiesta rs turbo just ran on the std ofab management with a 195 chip and beige injectors with a t2 turbo it ran fine either with high octane or with out it.My escort rs turbo running mfi gear so there was no ecu to tune it with it was just mechanical so it just got the std 4 star or 95 ron fuel.They was how ever expensive to tune to get the 200 bhp but the escort was a light car any way.lIke I say I don't mind critism anyone will get that any where no matter where they go in the world.If I came across a little rough then I'm sorry it wasn't meant that way at all,and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm wrong.Everyone has there own views on how the T4 should work or there other volvo after all its a public forum and we share knowledge.How ever is some body starts to jump on my back giving it all this I am or I do this and you are this,then I won't take it lying down I'm just not built that way.There is also people who are scared of trying something incase its wrong or they think there gonna get slagged off,the answer is simple don't be go and have a try you won't no untill you do and everybody is different.

[960kg]

Originally Posted by 960kg

Sorry!........

I did say sorry Rick, how many times does a fellow member have to say sorry??

Originally Posted by T4Rick

Look here I don't really have the patients for this. Who is the key board warrior here then trailing through my post finding something to pick on.Yes you did say it was free and I was banking on it so you might not give a **** but there is people in need of things or who rely on peoples say so. You might enjoy this because your bored and have no life.But do your self a really big favour and right your own post instead of jumping on the band wagon .I also notice that 960kg hasn't said anything yet but says thankyou to your info.This is another guy who goes buy what ever vadis says like its a bilble or something.eg volvo says do this so you must dot it.If vadis said go and jump in a fire Keith would you do it.with cars you have to use your common sence or use what you have to hand .What a waste of a topic ruin again.

I wasn`t going to talk anymore until you dragged me in again and so it starts up again the slagging off, you did not let me rest at all.

Originally Posted by mitchyboy01

Keith is a good help to those on the forum and has offered me good advice and on one occasion has gone out of his way to help me. So I really appreciate this, although our opinions differ at times.

I find sometimes, Keiths opinion of doing everything by the book doesn't always wash with others on the forum. Although in an ideal world, where money was no object Keith is right but most of us are on a budget. If our cars were nearly new and worth a lot of money then replace with all genuine parts by all means and do everything by the book. Most people who buy a T4 buy because it's a very cheap performance bargain and do a lot of the work themselves as a hobby. They simply cannot afford to pay full price for new parts and see it's not worth spending all that cash on a car worth a grand. I will always take a risk with some used parts as I can't afford to tune my car and buy all genuine parts for general maintenance. From research on the forums and my own mistakes, I've found what parts are worth going genuine, mainly parts that are not easily accessible if they fail. eg headgasket. Things like a fuel pump which takes 20mins to change if it begins to fail or an ICV, BCS why not take a chance if it's a 10th of the price. Half the Volvo's on the forums, even the good ones, have used parts fitted at some point.
Also a lot of used parts are fitted due to troubleshooting. If you went out and bought 5 genuine items before you found the true problem then you'd be bankrupt in no time.

Just my 2cents.

I always do my best to help anyone on these forums as i have been playing with motors since 1966 ......i was brought up on Ford`s and lucky to have owned two Mk1 Lotus Cortinas a Mk11 Cortina Lotus and the Mk11 GT`s etc....my old 1200 Anglia had the full works with the 1500GT engine it already having the shorter prop. from the remote gearbox and ended up with the then fully sorted 1650 engine with twin 40`s, those were the days.

Today with all these modern engines and ECU computers i cannot say to someone fit a 2nd hand part as if it was knackered then i am open to wrong information supplied and it has cost them money for nowt. So i am a firm believer of replace with new especially with fault finding if an error code does not give you very good direction from the beginning.

I have never ever been able read story books but i can read a car manual from front to back and having a photographic memory i remember most of the major important parts of it. So this is where Vadis comes in for me any way, ok, sad bugger you may say, get a life ,but i am interested in reading it and there is so much in depth if one can find it imagine 6 or 7GB in just words or line drawings.

The thing is my two cars are running fine and i do all this work or help for others, just like Gatos will break a car and take photo`s for owners to explain things first hand, he does a great job for members and yes even i learn from his doings one never stops learning and then pass it on to others if they want it. The thing is i never take things at face value and will always try to come up with another weird solution. My help on here it is not because i know it all it is because others want to fix there car so if i can help then i do it in my own way and if not suitable then it can be ignored but please don`t slag me off for it as a "know all"......

Originally Posted by T4Rick

My fiesta rs turbo just ran on the std ofab management with a 195 chip and beige injectors with a t2 turbo it ran fine either with high octane or with out it.My escort rs turbo running mfi gear so there was no ecu to tune it with it was just mechanical so it just got the std 4 star or 95 ron fuel.They was how ever expensive to tune to get the 200 bhp but the escort was a light car any way.lIke I say I don't mind critism anyone will get that any where no matter where they go in the world.If I came across a little rough then I'm sorry it wasn't meant that way at all,and I'm not ashamed to admit I'm wrong.Everyone has there own views on how the T4 should work or there other volvo after all its a public forum and we share knowledge.How ever is some body starts to jump on my back giving it all this I am or I do this and you are this,then I won't take it lying down I'm just not built that way.There is also people who are scared of trying something incase its wrong or they think there gonna get slagged off,the answer is simple don't be go and have a try you won't no untill you do and everybody is different.

Rick, you mustn`t think people jump on your back they just have a stir up and get a laugh and a kick out of it, banter if you like, but just join in and have a kind clever dig back this is all people want. I appreciate it is difficult on a keyboard as you can`t emphasise your feelings people have to guess them........i have said sorry once so lucky you i say sorry twice!........

Good luck with the motor

[mechakev]

Can't we all just get along?

Vadis is pretty good... that and the haynes book of lies have helped me quite a few times.

[T4Rick]

I accept your apology Keith,now its time to forget about it and move on

[Dog_Book]

Group hug?

[gmain1967]

Originally Posted by Dog_Book

Group hug?

Seconded. Well done RickT4 and 960kg. Takes a bigger man to apologise.

[Robmac999]

I think I'm going to cry...........

Glad it's all happy families again, life's too short.