Heated front windscreen - what should I expect to see? - Page 2

Lexman8 · Feb 25th, 2016, 12:32

You'd expect (or hope) that the car's built-in diagnostics would detect the problem and log it for the dealer to see.

When the heated door mirror on my Merc stopped working the car logged the problem as an open circuit in the heating power feed, i.e. a broken wire, which indeed it was.

4candles · Feb 25th, 2016, 13:21

Your screen is not working...(no poo Sherlock, lol)

My FFRR heated screen used to fry eggs on it in under 2 minutes, 1 minute after the frost/ice had vapourised/slid to the scuttle panel...

With all the voodooo blue fire systems on these Volvos it will/should be a simple fix, or correcting an omission like the screen not actually being connected at the bus bars.

You shouldn't have to pray for frosty weather for the dealer to diagnose the issue,
merely tell them it's not working and politely ask they fix it, tell them your on 'Stork duty' for yourself or your kin and that this needs to be working as a matter of urgency, that may jump you up the priority queue.

TheDufster · Feb 25th, 2016, 13:28

Could it be the fuse(s)?

http://esd.volvocars.com/local/us/Vo...-Manual-v3.pdf

See page 510 onwards.

Philip Fisher · Feb 25th, 2016, 13:50

Things are never easy are they.....

Walter Eagle · Feb 25th, 2016, 15:08

Because of my previous posts and threads elsewhere about the intricacy of integrated electronic, electrical and software systems, I've now started half-assuming that fixing the heated windscreen will cure all my MP3 woes as well. There's bound to be a link, hasn't there, somewhere, surely ... ?

Walter Eagle · Feb 25th, 2016, 22:22

You are not going to believe the next part of this story ...

Left work as early as I could and nipped along to my local Volvo dealer.
"Any chance you could have a look at this? I know it's late, but ... "
"Yeah sure, hold on and I'll have a word with one of the lads."
So one of the lads had a look and came up with the decision, "Yep, no question. It's not working. We'll have to get you booked in to find out why. There's so many things that could affect it you see. It's all the computers and things ... "
(Oh, I thought, don't start on about the computers!)

Anyway, we fixed a date to get it analysed. Not fixed you understand, just diagnosed - "we might need to get you back in depending on what we find". And I headed off for home.

And on the way home, at one point I was stationary in queuing traffic, in a right-hand lane, waiting to turn right in a compulsory right turn. When all of a sudden, "BANG!", and a Lithuanian HGV ripped off my passenger-side wing mirror as he tried to squeeze past in the left lane.

Well, he did stop. And he looked suitably apologetic, with lots of shrugs and holding his hands open, and pushing out his lower lip, and raising his eyebrows. (I think that's the description I'm looking for - try it and see how you feel. You'll probably have half the office looking at you thinking, "What's up with him?"). Anyway his English and my Lithuanian seemed to be about equal proficiency, so we stumbled through an international episode of "Give Us A Clue" (anyone remember that?), miming phrases like "what were you playing at?", "insurance policy" and "have you any duct tape I can borrow?".
We were the best of friends after about 30 minutes of this. I think he might even have said at one point that his daughter is coming to visit us at Easter.
But I admit I could have got that one wrong.

Hey ho, there's never a dull moment owning an XC90, is there?

Walter

TheDufster · Feb 26th, 2016, 10:12

Oh dear! At least it was a minor bump and nobody was injured!

Maybe they'll fix the windscreen at the same time as the mirror........

Walter Eagle · Feb 26th, 2016, 10:22

What? Fix both at once? Are you mad? These kind of things just don't happen.

One of them's a warranty issue being done at Volvo's cost, but the other's an insurance issue and needs to be approved separately. Which means different order numbers, different invoices, probably different sessions in the workshop ...

Oh sure, in an ideal world, I'd get both done at once. But I'm not counting any chickens.

Walter Eagle · Mar 14th, 2016, 15:38

Just tying off the windscreen issue ...

Got it fixed at local dealer.
"Yeah, it just wasn't connected at all. Must have left the factory like that."
I thought that was an amazingly casual attitude by a dealer.
I wasn't sure whether to tell them another dealer had already swapped out the driver display and whether that might have resulted in a few trailing wires not being re-connected.

Anyway, the point is, I've had a couple of frosty mornings since then (nothing major - no worse than 1˚C) and it's worked beautifully. Never had one before (a heated windscreen, not a frosty morning) and I'm very pleased.

Walter

TheDufster · Mar 15th, 2016, 07:39

Glad to hear you got it sorted Walter!

Feb 25th, 2016, 13:28	#13
TheDufster Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:07 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Leeds, UK	Could it be the fuse(s)? http://esd.volvocars.com/local/us/Vo...-Manual-v3.pdf See page 510 onwards. __________________ XC90 Inscription Pro B5 MY20, Savile Grey, 21” Multi-Spoke Diamond Cut/Black Alloys, Xenium Pack XC40 1.5 T3 R-Design

Feb 25th, 2016, 13:50	#14
Philip Fisher Premier Member Last Online: Today 06:22 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Sheffield	Things are never easy are they..... __________________ Currently:- MY16 XC90 T8 Momentum, Magic Blue 174k miles. MY17 V60 T4 Power Blue. Previously:- 1997 V70 T5 exPolice; 2005 V50 2.0D; 2013 XC70 D5 Last edited by Philip Fisher; Feb 25th, 2016 at 13:53.

Feb 26th, 2016, 10:12	#17
TheDufster Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:07 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Leeds, UK	Oh dear! At least it was a minor bump and nobody was injured! Maybe they'll fix the windscreen at the same time as the mirror........ __________________ XC90 Inscription Pro B5 MY20, Savile Grey, 21” Multi-Spoke Diamond Cut/Black Alloys, Xenium Pack XC40 1.5 T3 R-Design

Mar 15th, 2016, 07:39	#20
TheDufster Member Last Online: Yesterday 12:07 Join Date: May 2009 Location: Leeds, UK	Glad to hear you got it sorted Walter! __________________ XC90 Inscription Pro B5 MY20, Savile Grey, 21” Multi-Spoke Diamond Cut/Black Alloys, Xenium Pack XC40 1.5 T3 R-Design

Feb 25th, 2016, 12:32	#11
Lexman8 Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 17:32 Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: Yorkshire	You'd expect (or hope) that the car's built-in diagnostics would detect the problem and log it for the dealer to see. When the heated door mirror on my Merc stopped working the car logged the problem as an open circuit in the heating power feed, i.e. a broken wire, which indeed it was.

Feb 25th, 2016, 13:21	#12
4candles I've Been Banned Last Online: Mar 19th, 2016 19:57 Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: Yondershire	Your screen is not working...(no poo Sherlock, lol) My FFRR heated screen used to fry eggs on it in under 2 minutes, 1 minute after the frost/ice had vapourised/slid to the scuttle panel... With all the voodooo blue fire systems on these Volvos it will/should be a simple fix, or correcting an omission like the screen not actually being connected at the bus bars. You shouldn't have to pray for frosty weather for the dealer to diagnose the issue, merely tell them it's not working and politely ask they fix it, tell them your on 'Stork duty' for yourself or your kin and that this needs to be working as a matter of urgency, that may jump you up the priority queue.

Feb 25th, 2016, 15:08	#15
Walter Eagle Junior Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2023 19:49 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: N/A	Because of my previous posts and threads elsewhere about the intricacy of integrated electronic, electrical and software systems, I've now started half-assuming that fixing the heated windscreen will cure all my MP3 woes as well. There's bound to be a link, hasn't there, somewhere, surely ... ?

Feb 25th, 2016, 22:22	#16
Walter Eagle Junior Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2023 19:49 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: N/A	You are not going to believe the next part of this story ... Left work as early as I could and nipped along to my local Volvo dealer. "Any chance you could have a look at this? I know it's late, but ... " "Yeah sure, hold on and I'll have a word with one of the lads." So one of the lads had a look and came up with the decision, "Yep, no question. It's not working. We'll have to get you booked in to find out why. There's so many things that could affect it you see. It's all the computers and things ... " (Oh, I thought, don't start on about the computers!) Anyway, we fixed a date to get it analysed. Not fixed you understand, just diagnosed - "we might need to get you back in depending on what we find". And I headed off for home. And on the way home, at one point I was stationary in queuing traffic, in a right-hand lane, waiting to turn right in a compulsory right turn. When all of a sudden, "BANG!", and a Lithuanian HGV ripped off my passenger-side wing mirror as he tried to squeeze past in the left lane. Well, he did stop. And he looked suitably apologetic, with lots of shrugs and holding his hands open, and pushing out his lower lip, and raising his eyebrows. (I think that's the description I'm looking for - try it and see how you feel. You'll probably have half the office looking at you thinking, "What's up with him?"). Anyway his English and my Lithuanian seemed to be about equal proficiency, so we stumbled through an international episode of "Give Us A Clue" (anyone remember that?), miming phrases like "what were you playing at?", "insurance policy" and "have you any duct tape I can borrow?". We were the best of friends after about 30 minutes of this. I think he might even have said at one point that his daughter is coming to visit us at Easter. But I admit I could have got that one wrong. Hey ho, there's never a dull moment owning an XC90, is there? Walter

Feb 26th, 2016, 10:22	#18
Walter Eagle Junior Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2023 19:49 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: N/A	What? Fix both at once? Are you mad? These kind of things just don't happen. One of them's a warranty issue being done at Volvo's cost, but the other's an insurance issue and needs to be approved separately. Which means different order numbers, different invoices, probably different sessions in the workshop ... Oh sure, in an ideal world, I'd get both done at once. But I'm not counting any chickens.

Mar 14th, 2016, 15:38	#19
Walter Eagle Junior Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2023 19:49 Join Date: Sep 2015 Location: N/A	Just tying off the windscreen issue ... Got it fixed at local dealer. "Yeah, it just wasn't connected at all. Must have left the factory like that." I thought that was an amazingly casual attitude by a dealer. I wasn't sure whether to tell them another dealer had already swapped out the driver display and whether that might have resulted in a few trailing wires not being re-connected. Anyway, the point is, I've had a couple of frosty mornings since then (nothing major - no worse than 1˚C) and it's worked beautifully. Never had one before (a heated windscreen, not a frosty morning) and I'm very pleased. Walter

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