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Old Nov 15th, 2007, 22:47   #21
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Not sure why you are antagonistic about this product. All I said it worked for me. By your tone and in depth knowledge of the Volvo warranty, are you a Volvo employee??

My 940 2.4 SE LTP is well out of Warranty. I am naturally inquisitive and so gave it a go.

As to you comment

..."so given Volvo's stance... I hardly think that they have "recommended" Xado have they?"

They must have otherwise they would not have issued their certificate of approval for their oils, which contain the XADO additive. See http://www.xado.co.uk/xado_uk_news_2005.htm.

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As tends to be common....

I'm not "antagonistic"... but it's been shown plenty of times, especially in the states where consumer protection has excelled against some of these firms, that they are snake oils...

Use what you want, I really don't care..

However I was stating Volvo's official line on "additives"....

The oil that has been allegedly submitted by XADO for "approval" is precisely that... an OIL.... not an additive... and I'd suspect there is some classic snake oil saleman double speak involved in the "approval"... just enough naff quality on the letters that you can't read it, how strange..... Never mind, time to send "Volvo Technology Corporation" an email

So Xado have a couple of oils approved then... allegedly.... says naff all about their additives...

I'm definitely not a Volvo Employee

Nor am I however a snake oil saleman.

Volvo Technology Corporation eh...

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Yeah, sounds like the perfect division within Volvo to do snake oil approvals.....

Nice to see the only thread you've EVER posted on is the "snake oil thread".... and seen as it's only fair coz you asked me first...

You don't happen to work for Xado or have any connection to them do you? (no of course you dont!)
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Actually I need to have a real good chat with "volvo technology corporation" the letterhead they've supplied to XADO is really unprofessional and not up to the standards of Volvo.



I mean... you'd think a multi million world wide corporation would be able to have a professional company design their letterheads and ensure that their logo and name etc was centred properly wouldn't you...

Unless of course...... God forbid.... it's not really "Volvo Technology Corporations" official letterheading...
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s60Ben,

Glad to see you are an active contributor. Yes I am new to the BB. I have a Volvo and take a keen interest in her maintenance. It is my first experience of BB and I am sorry if you feel I have another agenda.

All I was trying to do is share my own experiences - you can take it or leave it , but XADO worked for me and I have gone on to use their engine oils as well.

No I am not a snake oil salesman and I can't comment on their letterhead, perhaps you should contact them and find out.

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Just my two-pennorth. With a background of 34 years in the oil industry and 30 of those in Lubricants, there is, I believe a common stance with vehicle manufacturers and lubricants producers. Engines, gearboxes. final drives, hydraulics et al have designated requirements for lubrication in terms of viscosity, performance level and oil-change intervals. These are arrived at after huge amounts of formulation and testing in a cooperatrive effort between builder and oil producer(s). Oil formulations are put together to suit the application and sometimes the engineering is modified to improve things, ( I was involved with one manufacturers engine which has still not come to market after 12 years. The metallurgy was so off the wall that it could not be successfully lubricated to last more than 15 minutes on a test bed). The relevant oil specs then appear in the handbooks and both the manufacturer and oil suppliers will stand by their products as specified in the correct environment. Once you add anything to the lube oil you lose the backing of both the vehicle manufacturer and the oil producer. You have, in effect, introduced a whole new formulation which no-one has tested and which may, or may not, work as required.

Your best safeguard is to buy the best quality oil - THAT MEETS THE CORRECT SPECS - that you can afford and stick to the manufacturers drain periods............although these tend to be conservative. Why pay £30+ for good oil and then bastardise it with an additive that was never meant to be there and which may be doing more harm than good ?

I'm afraid I'm in the Snake Oil camp on this.
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