Brake servo pedal seal

[woodways3]

Having a faulty in car seal (hissing sound) I ordered one of the what is supposed to be a better seal from Poland .the red version.What a joke ,i removed the seal in 10 minutes ,then had to wait three weeks till it arrived.No car !!!! Ive spent 20 minutes trying to fit it in situe of course ,seems impossible.You can only use your left hand as there is too much in the way on the right.I know some on this site have fitted them .Can you tell me how ???????????????????? I cant even seem to get it started .Nightmare!and to make it worse you cannot see the side of the seal for all the thick insulation.

[Brendan W]

Here is a video of LHD auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saX-GG6s1Ck
The clutch is in the way if you have a manual.
I gave up even trying to reseat the bellows. I have seen pics of people cutting that insulation away.
All things considered I would be weighing up the difficulty of dropping the motor a bit and getting the booster to a bench.

[oragex]

I did replace the gray bellow a few times, it is actually easy but indeed I have the automatic: I had to grease the bellow a little inside to have it slide easier, then pressed on it at one place with the index and the thumb together, then while keeping the pressure I 'drew' a circle with these two fingers (each one goes on one side of the bellow) while crushing the bellow in place
By the way, for hissing one must first make sure the large rubber boot at the bottom of the steering column is properly secured to the floor with a large metal ring - otherwise noises from the engine (hissing) can be heard inside the cabin

[woodways3]

Originally Posted by Brendan W

Here is a video of LHD auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saX-GG6s1Ck
The clutch is in the way if you have a manual.
I gave up even trying to reseat the bellows. I have seen pics of people cutting that insulation away.
All things considered I would be weighing up the difficulty of dropping the motor a bit and getting the booster to a bench.

The bellows is nt the issue its the bottom seal over the white tube

[woodways3]

Originally Posted by Brendan W

Here is a video of LHD auto.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saX-GG6s1Ck
The clutch is in the way if you have a manual.
I gave up even trying to reseat the bellows. I have seen pics of people cutting that insulation away.
All things considered I would be weighing up the difficulty of dropping the motor a bit and getting the booster to a bench.

As ive said the bellows is not the issue its the bottom seal on the Whits shaft!

[b1mcp]

I feel your pain. I tried to fit one of those red seals from Poland to a V70 (my daughters car). I spent about 6 hours trying everything I could think of, even cutting small bits off the seal. I could get it 80% fitted but the last bit was impossible.

I've been working on cars for 40 years and I don't give up easily. But this was one where I had to throw in the towel.

I think the problem is the red seal is too hard and will just not compress enough to get it in. You might have more of a chance with the servo on the bench, but in situ I thinks it's impossible. I'm doubtful even on the bench.

I've seen black seals for sale in US and wondered if they might be softer and easier to fit? I couldn't get one quickly enough at the time.

I bought a new Servo, dropped the engine and fitted it. Expensive but done in much less time than the messing about with the seal.

[woodways3]

Originally Posted by b1mcp

I feel your pain. I tried to fit one of those red seals from Poland to a V70 (my daughters car). I spent about 6 hours trying everything I could think of, even cutting small bits off the seal. I could get it 80% fitted but the last bit was impossible.

I've been working on cars for 40 years and I don't give up easily. But this was one where I had to throw in the towel.

I think the problem is the red seal is too hard and will just not compress enough to get it in. You might have more of a chance with the servo on the bench, but in situ I thinks it's impossible. I'm doubtful even on the bench.

I've seen black seals for sale in US and wondered if they might be softer and easier to fit? I couldn't get one quickly enough at the time.

I bought a new Servo, dropped the engine and fitted it. Expensive but done in much less time than the messing about with the seal.

Too true i gave up after 30 minutes with the Red seal.Ive sent it back its a joke trying to fit ,my advise dont go there with the red seal.waste of money on top of that it took 3 weeks to arrive im still carless.

[Kev0607]

I had the same issue with my car. I researched doing the job myself & to be honest, I just knew that it was going to be a right pain with limited access etc, so I bit the bullet & brought my car to an independent specialist to investigate. They confirmed the seal was the issue, but they wouldn't faff around replacing it either & said a second hand servo was the best option, which they sourced for me. The servo cost £80 plus labour to fit (I think it come to around £150 in total if I recall correctly & the servo itself was tested to be in full working order).

Being honest, I imagine there wouldn't have been much difference in terms of cost if they were to fit just the seal on its own, taking labour rates into account. I thought £150 was a fair price to fit a second hand unit & it was my only real option, as I wasn't going to tackle the job.

Maybe that's an option for you to consider?

[woodways3]

Originally Posted by Kev0607

I had the same issue with my car. I researched doing the job myself & to be honest, I just knew that it was going to be a right pain with limited access etc, so I bit the bullet & brought my car to an independent specialist to investigate. They confirmed the seal was the issue, but they wouldn't faff around replacing it either & said a second hand servo was the best option, which they sourced for me. The servo cost £80 plus labour to fit (I think it come to around £150 in total if I recall correctly & the servo itself was tested to be in full working order).

Being honest, I imagine there wouldn't have been much difference in terms of cost if they were to fit just the seal on its own, taking labour rates into account. I thought £150 was a fair price to fit a second hand unit & it was my only real option, as I wasn't going to tackle the job.

Maybe that's an option for you to consider?

Thanks but im sure in London it would be a lot more than that .Where did you buy the servo from ?

[Kev0607]

I don't know, as the garage that fixed the issue sourced the part.