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Old Mar 25th, 2020, 23:41   #11
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You would still have had to spend £500 just 6 months later.
Are you, by chance a financial advisor ?
My small business is ****ed for ever this week. Got any more pearls of wisdom ?
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Very true and quite possibly more. Taking a wild guess there was probably some welding involved as MX-5s have a reputation for rusting in structural places and that could easily have developed into more welding.
Once again, wide of the mark. No welding.
Front hubs, rear sway bar bushes and discs and pads all round.
Nothing dangerous, just outside of tolerance.

Still, a nice blast along the coast road allowed a bit of thinking time earlier.
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Once again, wide of the mark. No welding.
Front hubs, rear sway bar bushes and discs and pads all round.
Nothing dangerous, just outside of tolerance.

Still, a nice blast along the coast road allowed a bit of thinking time earlier.
I did say "taking a wild guess" - having seen a friends MX-5 and the amount of welding that needed and subsequent ones he had through his workshop for similar, not to mention the reputation they have, particularly the earlier ones for rusting, it was a fair guess.

Simple fact is, none of the faults/failure points you list would have fixed themselves in the next 6 months so you would still have had to pay to have them done and if the front hubs were that worn, they could potentially have done more harm elsewhere, perhaps on the stub axles, rear anti roll bar could have increased the wear on other rear suspension mountings etc and therefore cost more.
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Are you, by chance a financial advisor ?
My small business is ****ed for ever this week. Got any more pearls of wisdom ?
I do actually, being a keyboard warrior doesn't get you anywhere.
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I did say "taking a wild guess" - having seen a friends MX-5 and the amount of welding that needed and subsequent ones he had through his workshop for similar, not to mention the reputation they have, particularly the earlier ones for rusting, it was a fair guess.

Simple fact is, none of the faults/failure points you list would have fixed themselves in the next 6 months so you would still have had to pay to have them done and if the front hubs were that worn, they could potentially have done more harm elsewhere, perhaps on the stub axles, rear anti roll bar could have increased the wear on other rear suspension mountings etc and therefore cost more.
'Wild guess' is often used sarcastically....perhaps not in this case ?
I have both hubs in my possession and theres nothing at all wrong with them.
Once this blows over I'll be reporting this to DoT or whoever is in charge of issuing MOT operators licences. I was hosed. Both on the parts price and the labour required....like I said, I'm not finished with them yet.
The brakes were not a fail point but they were coming due - it wasn't a risk I would have taken long term and its a very occasionally used car.
I could have just done without the bill right now is all.
If you knew my circumstances you'd agree I'm sure.
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I do actually, being a keyboard warrior doesn't get you anywhere.
Just the sort of weedy and smug little remark I'd expect.
Of course, I would have no idea as you're a stranger to me.
Are you weedy ? Are you a smug ?
Ask those around you.
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'Wild guess' is often used sarcastically....perhaps not in this case ?
I have both hubs in my possession and theres nothing at all wrong with them.
Once this blows over I'll be reporting this to DoT or whoever is in charge of issuing MOT operators licences. I was hosed. Both on the parts price and the labour required....like I said, I'm not finished with them yet.
The brakes were not a fail point but they were coming due - it wasn't a risk I would have taken long term and its a very occasionally used car.
I could have just done without the bill right now is all.
If you knew my circumstances you'd agree I'm sure.
Obviously was a wild guess - based on my (limited) experience of the MX-5 and knowledge i have gleaned on it.
I have no idea what year yours is

The DVSA are the people you need to take this up with about the MoT, i know £500 seems excessive for the work you had done though. I had a cheaper bill for discs and pads on all 4 corners on an XJ40 using genuine Jaguar parts and fitted by an ex-Jaguar Master Tech who had left to start his own specialist business. Admittedly about 20 years ago now but the bill for all 4 corners (remember they were genuine Jag pads and discs) was £125 fitted.

https://www.gov.uk/government/organi...andards-agency

As for the hubs, you might find yourself on a hiding to nothing with the DVSA, they use hefty bars to check for play in the wheel bearings, suspension joints etc and sometimes a joint or bearing can appear absolutely fine off the car but knackered on the car.

What condition were the discs and pads in? Less than 3mm material on the pads they'll need changing but should have been an advisory or minor fault as they now term it and you should "Monitor and repair as needed" or words to that effect.
Were the discs excessively worn or scored, turned blue from heat or any other faults?

Anti-roll bar bushes do wear out and while some can look ok, again they could have excess play on the car. On my non-Volvo, the front ARB drop-links get excessively noisy when they're even slightly worn but for some reason pass the MoT - that's with the bush more or less disintegrated inside each end! Fact is, they're still doing theiir job despite all that so still pass.

As you can tell from all that, it's horses for courses on different cars and you might find they were justified in failing it on what they failed it on but the general thing is it doesn't sound right.

Good luck with chasing it up through the DVSA and just so you're aware, Luke does know his stuff and was pointing out it was an inevitable expense and has quite a few pearls of wisdom. Not usually smug either.

From what i can see in your post, the Corona Virus has not just cost you an excessive bill on your car but your business as well. For that and for what it's worth you have my sympathy
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Thanks for taking the time to compose such an informative and lengthy reply.

1. The V70 had new hub bearings recently too and those retained parts can be seen to be defective. The ones I insisted they return from the MX5 seem to function as a new one would, in the hand at least. There was NO bearing drone and I've owned 50 plus cars over the years and have ears like a bat. I couldn't be bothered arguing the toss last week. Social distancing meant that we held a hurried conversation across reception and there was an understandable awkwardness among the few customers in there as it was. I suspect the guy knew that his business would be affected soon and was gathering his nuts in readiness....I can't say I blame him entirely. The man has a family to feed I guess.
2. The brakes were fine at all speeds, more than 3mm on the pads and only slightly lipped on the inner. A little corrosion along with vibration due to a warped disk so it was time to change anyway.
3. The rear anti roll bar bush had a tiny split - no symptoms in driving of course.

The business we are in is seasonal and our best months of the year have historically been March and April and run through to October. Its the light at the end of the tunnel that keeps us going each year. While everyone around us is whooping it up around Christmas we are careful with the pennies and eagerly waiting for the Spring.
Within the last 3 weeks our client list has evaporated and we really don't know where things will go from here. We had premises previously so would have qualified for the Business Interruption Grant, but we gave that up as more work was moving online and to cut down overheads. We also moved house in October due to circumstances beyond our control so its been tough on all of us. This year we vowed would be different though, and had a fresh sense of purpose and ambition. Like so many small business owners we had no idea how different things really were to be.
Following the much anticipated announcement by the chancellor earlier we are, effectively finished.
To say we're in shock would be an understatement.
The entrepreneur in me wants to cut and run. To diversify. To keep ahead of the curve which is somewhat difficult when being made a prisoner in your own home.
So many double standards.
Tube trains stuffed full of people yet they've padlocked the local park.



Me - Socially distancing earlier......
Sometimes, when you've had a bad day, a raspy exhaust note through the twisties and a lungful of fresh air helps you face the rest of it.

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