Seriously?

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Some of the bits he has listed will have a market but most of it is (being very kind) indeed tat of the first order.

Looks like he does house clearances and i'd guess has a shop selling the better stuff, the rubbish gets punted out on fleabay.

I thought that Dave: house clearances.

I wonder whether that Volvo 240 estate came as a result of one?

:-)

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

I thought that Dave: house clearances.

I wonder whether that Volvo 240 estate came as a result of one?

:-)

I think the 245 was the house clearance Alan!

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

I think the 245 was the house clearance Alan!

I just looked at that 245 ad again Dave, and I wonder whether it is worth anything more than scrap or spares (and lots of those are missing). Sometimes it is probably best to let go.

:-(

Alan

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

I just looked at that 245 ad again Dave, and I wonder whether it is worth anything more than scrap or spares (and lots of those are missing). Sometimes it is probably best to let go.

:-(

Alan

Someone with more enthusiasm than realism might take it on as a very brave (or stupid) restoration.........................

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Someone with more enthusiasm than realism might take it on as a very brave (or stupid) restoration.........................

Maybe Dave, but 240s aren't really all that rare yet, so it is still possible to get a solid and complete one for 2 grand. It would cost much more than £2,000 to get that 245 solid and complete as a baseline for restoration. I concluded that motor car isn't really worth saving.

If 240s become really rare (perhaps like Amazons are now) in 15-20 years time the numbers may make sense then.

:-(

Alan

[Laird Scooby]

Originally Posted by Othen

Maybe Dave, but 240s aren't really all that rare yet, so it is still possible to get a solid and complete one for 2 grand. It would cost much more than £2,000 to get that 245 solid and complete as a baseline for restoration.

:-(

Alan

Precisely the point i was making when i said what's below Alan :

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Someone with more enthusiasm than realism might take it on as a very brave (or stupid) restoration.........................

The trouble is Alan, at the moment the 240 series is something of "the poor relation" although not quite so poor as the 740 series.
The real values are yet to climb to the stratospheric levels of the Amazon and (although not quite there yet) the 140 series.

The 240s time will come no doubt, as will the 740 too but for now, the values of both are currently climbing out of the doldrums, the 240 is a few years ahead of the 740 for the simple reason it was made earlier so has a head start.

However, someone may view that 240 simply as being "an old Volvo and therefore valuable" and sink wads of £££££ into it in the belief they would at least double their investment. Maybe with an Amazon or a 140, you could buy it for say £500, do all the work yourself to weld it, refresh the bodywork, respray it, interior, engine and other restorative works and it would be worth somewhere in the region of £6-8k. By doing all that work themselves, taking into account the parts/materials used they might make £1-2k profit but more likely just break even.
With a 240, at the present time, they'd struggle to even break even. With a 740, you'd be waiting several years to come before break even would happen.

Maybe if the buyer/restorer wants to use it for 10 years give or take then they could potentially sell at a huge profit and having had the use of it for that time as well, amortise the purchase and restoration costs over that period giving them 100% profit when they sold.

Perhaps i'm viewing it from a different perspective to you and others, some undoubtedly will view it as "It's a Volvo, it must be saved if at all possible", others will view it more basically as in not financially viable to do anything other than scrap/spares mule it now and i'm sure there are others who have a totally different vista of the entire shooting match!

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Laird Scooby

Precisely the point i was making when i said what's below Alan :

The trouble is Alan, at the moment the 240 series is something of "the poor relation" although not quite so poor as the 740 series.
The real values are yet to climb to the stratospheric levels of the Amazon and (although not quite there yet) the 140 series.

The 240s time will come no doubt, as will the 740 too but for now, the values of both are currently climbing out of the doldrums, the 240 is a few years ahead of the 740 for the simple reason it was made earlier so has a head start.

However, someone may view that 240 simply as being "an old Volvo and therefore valuable" and sink wads of £££££ into it in the belief they would at least double their investment. Maybe with an Amazon or a 140, you could buy it for say £500, do all the work yourself to weld it, refresh the bodywork, respray it, interior, engine and other restorative works and it would be worth somewhere in the region of £6-8k. By doing all that work themselves, taking into account the parts/materials used they might make £1-2k profit but more likely just break even.
With a 240, at the present time, they'd struggle to even break even. With a 740, you'd be waiting several years to come before break even would happen.

Maybe if the buyer/restorer wants to use it for 10 years give or take then they could potentially sell at a huge profit and having had the use of it for that time as well, amortise the purchase and restoration costs over that period giving them 100% profit when they sold.

Perhaps i'm viewing it from a different perspective to you and others, some undoubtedly will view it as "It's a Volvo, it must be saved if at all possible", others will view it more basically as in not financially viable to do anything other than scrap/spares mule it now and i'm sure there are others who have a totally different vista of the entire shooting match!

I'd agree with all of that Dave: the value of things (most things) is a function of supply and demand. There aren't that many Amazons left, therefore even slightly rough ones are on sale for £8,600 (whether the seller gets that much is another matter):

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/125254141...MAAOSwQJdiVHSF

... there are more 140s left, so okay ones are on sale at £4,750:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/154937198...EAAOSwE4FiTsAv

There are loads of 240s remaining, so rough ones can be had for under a grand an pretty good running and riding ones for £3,700:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/203911132...oAAOSwq9liVSZO

There are shed loads of 740s still around, so neat and tidy motor cars can be picked up for £1,550 or so:

https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/194984883...IAAOSwgiZiXFpZ

The examples were just a few I found from today's eBay Dave. There is always be people trying to hawk 240s for 10 grand, 740s for £7,000 and Amazons at 25 thousand, but the ones I found in a minute or two are pretty indicative.

I like 240s because they are so accessible. The RB is the perfect example, I bought it quite cheaply, have spent a bit of money and a huge amount of time on it, the motor car is very well sorted now and is worth much more than I paid for it. I still would not be retiring to live on a yacht in Monaco if I sold it though :-).

Alan

[Moomoo]

The example of a745 you highlighted is a bit of a peach, good job I’ve nowhere to put it!
I had D616TFR, its twin, loved it
It’ll be a great entry to Volvo ownership for someone.

£2750ish?🤔

[Othen]

Originally Posted by Moomoo

The example of a745 you highlighted is a bit of a peach, good job I’ve nowhere to put it!
I had D616TFR, its twin, loved it
It’ll be a great entry to Volvo ownership for someone.

£2750ish?🤔

I don’t know much about the 700 series, I wonder whether that one will make much over 2 grand. It will qualify as an historic vehicle in only 5 years time, but would still be a very usable motor car (notwithstanding the high fuel consumption).

Alan

[Moomoo]

Originally Posted by Othen

I don’t know much about the 700 series, I wonder whether that one will make much over 2 grand. It will qualify as an historic vehicle in only 5 years time, but would still be a very usable motor car (notwithstanding the high fuel consumption).

Alan

The fuel issue was , by modern standards,not good if I remember. Mine was a carbon copy, mid to high twenties , low thirties if well driven on a run.More like a 240 at that age than a 940 !

I’d buy it!👍