Oil Change?

[nrobinson]

I need to do my first oil change since having the XC90.
Having had plenty of mess over the years I aiming to make this a clean affair. Famous last words!

I've not encountered the cartridge type filter before but looks to be a lot more sensible than the underneath designs of old.

My question is about removal of the old oil. Should i opt for the usual sump plug approach, getting under car removing protection tray etc.... or removal via the dipstick tube? Does anyone do it the latter way? Any tips?

(I have a pela extractor pump already which i use for a small boat engine)

Thanks

Nick

[thedonnmeister]

Originally Posted by nrobinson

I need to do my first oil change since having the XC90.
Having had plenty of mess over the years I aiming to make this a clean affair. Famous last words!

I've not encountered the cartridge type filter before but looks to be a lot more sensible than the underneath designs of old.

My question is about removal of the old oil. Should i opt for the usual sump plug approach, getting under car removing protection tray etc.... or removal via the dipstick tube? Does anyone do it the latter way? Any tips?

(I have a pela extractor pump already which i use for a small boat engine)

Thanks

Nick

The sump way will always be best to get the last bits out, but what I've done is get my annual full service, but then every 6 months do my own oil/filter change using my electric pump via the dipstick.

[AndyV7o]

Sump.
Thing with suction is you dont know where the tube end is sitting. The sump plug is at the lowest (suitable) point.

Also what engine, If D5, what year/euro is it? If pre '05, euro 3 dont use A5/B5 in it, it should have A3/B4, if its after 05, euro 4 then A5/B5 is specced, though you can also use A3/B4 too. You may know this, apologues for any egg-sucking tuition if so, but oil mistakes are rife on here with the early D5. If its petrol ignore me!

[nrobinson]

Originally Posted by AndyV7o

Sump.

Also what engine, If D5, what year/euro is it? If pre '05, euro 3 dont use A5/B5 in it, it should have A3/B4, if its after 05, euro 4 then A5/B5 is specced, though you can also use A3/B4 too. You may know this, apologues for any egg-sucking tuition if so, but oil mistakes are rife on here with the early D5. If its petrol ignore me!

Hi all thanks for all the advice and interesting to see the continuing debate about the process.

Andy - can i ask about your comments here about the oil spec. Yes the engine is the d5 euro 3.
I was going to use A3/B4 as that seems to be what is specified in the handbook, but interestingly an online oil suppliers lookup for my reg suggested A5/B5 only. I would have assumed that this would have been ok and backward compatible. Is this not the case? Are there problems with this oil in older D5's?

Thanks
Nick

[cheshired5]

Nick, just use Shell Helix Ultra 5 40.
It's cheap yet extremely high quality and I wouldn't use anything else on a Euro 3.

It's B4 spec for the record.

[ifzal123]

Originally Posted by cheshired5

Nick, just use Shell Helix Ultra 5 40.
It's cheap yet extremely high quality and I wouldn't use anything else on a Euro 3.

It's B4 spec for the record.

Xc90 2004 d5

Since ownership of nearly 5 years, I've always used Castrol 0w30 a5/b5.

This year I switched to shell helix ultra professional AF 5w 30 and I've noticed an improvement in the mpg. I've never had
Good mpg but the increase from 21 to 24 mpg locally is a lot better

[AndyV7o]

Check here https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=283503
If the manufacturer states B4 that is what should be used, B5 should only be used in engines which were intended to use it. I think the confusion arises in that all the other variants (of the same age) use A5/B5 and only the D5 uses A3/B4, whilst the euro 4 D5 uses A5/B5 inline with the rest of the range. It would follow logic that there is a reason the D5 was singled out to use a different spec than the rest of the range, and that during the euro 4 revision something(s) was(were) altered to use B5 safely where it wasnt suitable before.
A3/B4 and A5/B5 are not sequential specs but seperate (the link will explain)

[AndyV7o]

I concurr with CheshireD5, the shell is bloody good stuff, and inexpensive.

[Tannaton]

I don't think you would get any more out via the dipstick hole, the sump plug drains just fine - especially if you have the car on a pair of ramps and hence the engine is tilted slightly (the sump plug is at the back).

If your precious about getting as much oil out as possible (like me) I drain the sump, replace the plug, start the engine and run at tickover for about 5 seconds, and then re-drain. You get another 1/4 litre out that way (there are some that will think this is dangerous but at tickover the forces on the bearings in the engine are probably 1/1000th of that at full load/3,500rpm - provided the engine is warm and has been run a few minutes before so everything is coated in oil - it's fine to do this).

[AndyV7o]

The 1/4l of oil you may get out, is the oil contained in the bearings and oil pump etc, not a great idea to remove this. You do get this at start-up after a long rest, but the pump and feed galleries are primed ready to fill the gap. Running them dry will result in a further delay feeding oil to the now dry bearings. The crank and rods 'float' in a pressurised 'cushion' of oil, the boundary film of oil doesn't lubricate them very well.
Its probably equivalent to a handful of start-ups. Its only once every so often so not a big deal, but as most engine wear happens at start-up, its not a fantastic idea. If you change oil regularly the bit remaining will do far more good than removing it will.