960 B230FT Estate 1991 Alternator, or perhaps not!

waverley · Mar 11th, 2006, 13:54

Replaced Alternator in December with a 100Amp German & Swedish V90098 Hella
remanufactured unit - I have no idea what original make this is....but it was unlike the unit on the car. I was faintly annoyed at the lack of terminal markings, but figured that
1. '123' referred to Battery (Red Lead)
2. Unmarked Spade Terminal led to warning lamp (Red)
3. Earth Tag Terminal to Alternator Body screw (Blue)

Checked continuity on all 3 - all OK

Last week on turning right - most idiot lights for come on - and I lose power steering for a moment (gulp).....Battery power drops and eventually it dies.

I figure it's the Alternator and G&S offer replacement - fitted now - but I have the same problems...

Help - What is this old scroat missing - aside from £114 that is

Regards

Jim

Peter Milnes · Mar 12th, 2006, 02:34

Ensure that all alternator leads are correctly fitted and that the +ve terminal connections on the battery are making effective contact. There is a lower current capacity red wire (or two) at the terminal which can corrode and make a very dodgy contact.

All the best, Peter.

waverley · Mar 12th, 2006, 09:27

Thank You Peter

Prompt help as always!

Contacts all seem fine - I'll recheck this one of course....

Could this Hella rebuild be the 'wrong' alternator?

Regards

The Old Scroat

Did'nt see the 'Thanks' Button - lot to learn as usual

waverley · Mar 12th, 2006, 10:04

Hello

Just cleaned everything in sight and rechecked continuity - all ok - but no charge and idiot lights flash on when I turn corners (and I lose power at steering for a few seconds)...

Wierd..... should I change to a Bosch alternator?

Thanks

Jim

waverley · Mar 12th, 2006, 11:44

Sorry to think out loud - but it helps me (probably bores everyone else)

Alternator must be doing something - else warning lights would be on all the time

No connection at all between Power Steering and Alternator - except the Main Pulley.....

now if some clown's broken a key - or it's otherwise slipping....load on power steering = main pulley slips more / alternator belt speed drops / idiot lights go on

This might be baloney (what is baloney anyway?) - but as soon as this Yorkshire Snowstorm lets up - Pauline and I will check....

Regards

Jim

waverley · Mar 12th, 2006, 12:19

Still snowing like crazy here - but even if my slipping pulley turns out to be wrong - my depression lifts after reading

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...ght=pulley+key
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?p=15133
http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=670963

what a great bunch of helpful people

Thanks to all

Jim

waverley · Mar 13th, 2006, 16:59

Hello

Oh Yes!

It Slips - I'm sort of relieved - almost.....

anyone have any ideas on a 'temporary fix' - I need to use the 960 this week and though the suggested fixes are great - with my engineering skills I can't see me doing this inside a day...

Thanks

Jim

waverley · Mar 21st, 2006, 13:30

This gets wierd

The key on the Crank Sprocket was ok....

However the inner section of the 2 (should it be 3) piece pulley was slipping due to old age in the bonded rubber insert

Superglue is a temporary fix until I can fit a new pulley.....

Peter Milnes · Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:34

This happens more than you would think. Watch out for the superglue giving way when it gets a bit hot.

All the best, Peter.

Mar 11th, 2006, 13:54	#1
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	960 B230FT Estate 1991 Alternator, or perhaps not! Replaced Alternator in December with a 100Amp German & Swedish V90098 Hella remanufactured unit - I have no idea what original make this is....but it was unlike the unit on the car. I was faintly annoyed at the lack of terminal markings, but figured that 1. '123' referred to Battery (Red Lead) 2. Unmarked Spade Terminal led to warning lamp (Red) 3. Earth Tag Terminal to Alternator Body screw (Blue) Checked continuity on all 3 - all OK Last week on turning right - most idiot lights for come on - and I lose power steering for a moment (gulp).....Battery power drops and eventually it dies. I figure it's the Alternator and G&S offer replacement - fitted now - but I have the same problems... Help - What is this old scroat missing - aside from £114 that is Regards Jim

Mar 12th, 2006, 09:27	#3
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	960 B230FT Estate 1991 Alternator Thank You Peter Prompt help as always! Contacts all seem fine - I'll recheck this one of course.... Could this Hella rebuild be the 'wrong' alternator? Regards The Old Scroat Did'nt see the 'Thanks' Button - lot to learn as usual Last edited by waverley; Mar 12th, 2006 at 09:34.

Mar 12th, 2006, 10:04	#4
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	Contacts OK Hello Just cleaned everything in sight and rechecked continuity - all ok - but no charge and idiot lights flash on when I turn corners (and I lose power at steering for a few seconds)... Wierd..... should I change to a Bosch alternator? Thanks Jim

Mar 12th, 2006, 11:44	#5
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	Alternator...Power Steering?? Sorry to think out loud - but it helps me (probably bores everyone else) Alternator must be doing something - else warning lights would be on all the time No connection at all between Power Steering and Alternator - except the Main Pulley..... now if some clown's broken a key - or it's otherwise slipping....load on power steering = main pulley slips more / alternator belt speed drops / idiot lights go on This might be baloney (what is baloney anyway?) - but as soon as this Yorkshire Snowstorm lets up - Pauline and I will check.... Regards Jim

Mar 12th, 2006, 12:19	#6
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	Still a whiteout in Yorkshire Still snowing like crazy here - but even if my slipping pulley turns out to be wrong - my depression lifts after reading http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showth...ght=pulley+key http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?p=15133 http://www.brickboard.com/RWD/index.htm?id=670963 what a great bunch of helpful people Thanks to all Jim

Mar 12th, 2006, 02:34	#2
Peter Milnes Premier Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2014 00:01 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tonyrefail	Ensure that all alternator leads are correctly fitted and that the +ve terminal connections on the battery are making effective contact. There is a lower current capacity red wire (or two) at the terminal which can corrode and make a very dodgy contact. All the best, Peter.

Mar 13th, 2006, 16:59	#7
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	Main Drive Pulley 'Key' Hello Oh Yes! It Slips - I'm sort of relieved - almost..... anyone have any ideas on a 'temporary fix' - I need to use the 960 this week and though the suggested fixes are great - with my engineering skills I can't see me doing this inside a day... Thanks Jim

Mar 21st, 2006, 13:30	#8
waverley New Member Last Online: Aug 8th, 2023 13:43 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Otley, Yorkshire	Key OK - pulley ain't though This gets wierd The key on the Crank Sprocket was ok.... However the inner section of the 2 (should it be 3) piece pulley was slipping due to old age in the bonded rubber insert Superglue is a temporary fix until I can fit a new pulley.....

Mar 22nd, 2006, 02:34	#9
Peter Milnes Premier Member Last Online: Apr 10th, 2014 00:01 Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Tonyrefail	This happens more than you would think. Watch out for the superglue giving way when it gets a bit hot. All the best, Peter.

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