1.6 D2 a complete load of tut??

[GrahamBrown1]

They did and the s80! One way to ruin a good car and people bought them as well. The noise of a straining and rattly little diesel isn't pleasant

[dcw]

Originally Posted by NigelDay

I think they put this 1.6 DRIVe engine in a V70. That must have been really slow.

We test drove one and - to me/us - it felt very under-powered.

Just swapped from the V60 1.6D Drive, and it was fine for normal purposes but could be sluggish up hills with a load, and things like that. It was just a case of matching driving expectations to the car, but you did at times need to push it to get any response. My view became that it was too small in that size car - like others I've had V40 D2s as loan cars and it's fine in those.

Have to say, having gone from the 1.6 to the D5 I certainly know which I prefer...

David

[Sasha94]

Originally Posted by steadvex

I'm certain it should of had a dpf changed by now, we have seen some last as much as 110k but that's more of an exception than the rule.

Some newer ones do have a lifetime system,we have a customer with an s80 with a 1.6d with over 240k on the clock,had to from new and loves it, personally i prefer the larger engines, but it's all down to personal preference.

I cant remember when Volvo switched to the lifetime dpf system on the 1.6's you might be lucky and have the newer version

The 115 has the dry DPF system which is a non service part. You can count all of my 5 PSA cars with EOLYS fluid DPF's as exceptions then as all of them made it to 110k and beyond on original DPF's. One of them had 221k on the clock before any signs of impeding DPF failure started to show.

I have refrained from commenting on this thread because a lot of tosh is bandied around about PSA engines especially on forums like this, Mazda forums, Mini forums, basically any manufacturer based forum outside the PSA group that used this engine but also uses their own, it's the same on the Merc forum I'm on. All Renault engines are crap and Mercedes engines rule apparently despite plenty of people complaining about Merc engined cars with faults! I had a D5 engined car and it was the single most unreliable pile of crap I've ever had the misfortune to own, it was so bad on diesel it makes my 5.5 litre V8 Mercedes look reasonable to run daily, it was noisy, unrefined, expensive to maintain when it broke (which it did a lot!) and it wasn't really all that quick either considering how people talk about them. I don't usually go around telling people 'Don't buy a D5 because mine was rubbish' because it isn't true, they are all going to be different but please bear in mind the 1.6 DV6 diesel has won more awards and accolades, has sold more units and covered more miles than any modern small diesel in history and is still being made after 13 years with only 1 major refresh.

Yes, my V50 is a bit slow but I knew that when I bought it and when your other car has nearly 400 bhp you know it's going to be slow so I just revel in my 60 plus MPG and £0 annual rfl in the knowledge that in the last 11 months and 27,000 miles nothing has broken or fallen off, nothing has caused be concern above regular servicing and that with just under 130,000 miles on the clock, the car has at least another 100k before it's useful life is over.

[Harvey1512]

I think the point with this engine is that it is good in the appropriate car but under powered in a bigger car. Obvious really but that is not the engines fault, blame the person who married the two together.

[dunnydave]

Wouldn't pull the skin off a rice pudding sums it up

[niggly]

Seems two different topics going on in this thread?

1) Is the 1.6D2 in itself a complete dog or a decent engine - reliability, cost to run, maintenance, economy, longevity. Yes it is.

2) Should one buy a larger, fatter, heavier Volvo with this engine, given the other engine choices on offer with bigger, more gutsy engines. Not unless you know what you are letting yourself in for, no.

[GrahamBrown1]

My main reason for starting the thread was the reliability issues of this engine even when new! On the v40 section there a 2 threads about smoke and poor running with nearly new cars. Don't even start with s40 c30 v50 many a man has probably driven there's into the sea I know I would with some of the issues people have. Today another member has posted about his 1.6d with 56k mikes on having issues. The Volvo engines aren't problem free of course nothing is but they seem a dam site better than what is to me a proven load of tut!!

[Sasha94]

Again, not quite. The vast majority of people who come on forums are here to fix their problems for free and moan about broken cars so it's clear we will see more people posting about more issues. The first S40/V50's with the early 16v 1.6D (Note this thread is about the D2, not the DV6 as a whole but we'll count it for now) engines are now 13 years old and that, like it or not, makes them old cars nearing the end of their useful lives. You can pick up a tidy S40 for under £1000, they are bangernomics cars now and as such, are bound to suffer with faults and as they sold in massive numbers, more members with these cars will join. I bet if there were a poll, the most commonly owned Volvo on this forum would be a P1 platform car. From 2004-2014 Volvo sold more Volvo's with PSA engines than they did Volvo engines so you're bound to hear of more units having trouble, the sheer number of PSA engines sold vastly outnumbers Volvo engines. I'd wager the percentage of failed/faulty engines is probably about the same between PSA and Volvo's own from that period of time.

[niggly]

Originally Posted by GrahamBrown1

My main reason for starting the thread was the reliability issues of this engine even when new! On the v40 section there a 2 threads about smoke and poor running with nearly new cars. Don't even start with s40 c30 v50 many a man has probably driven there's into the sea I know I would with some of the issues people have. Today another member has posted about his 1.6d with 56k mikes on having issues. The Volvo engines aren't problem free of course nothing is but they seem a dam site better than what is to me a proven load of tut!!

Understand. So your thread is about the D2 115hp 8v engine itself being rubbish and prone to failure. As I have one in a C30, that is depressing news.
Having had numbers of Peugeot diesels over the years that have all been totally reliable, I was quite pleased when I bought it to learn it had a Peugeot diesel. Poor, incorrect deduction it would seem.
I will expect problems as mine has now done 103,000 miles. Seems so far I've been lucky.

[Billggski]

Fully loaded with 4 up and ski gear, big roof box, cruise control set at 85mph.
55mpg and never missed a beat in 1500 miles.
V70 D2.
Yes, the acceleration isn't great, but I don't need that for this job.
Just relax in comfort.