Built in fuel additive system???

toolbah · Oct 10th, 2009, 20:32

Got talking to a chap today who has a S40 1.6D who he bought from a Ford main dealer. They serviced the car as per schedual prior to him collecting the car.
The following day the car played up and started to splutter etc etc. It turns out, according to him, that the Ford dealer did not refill a tank near the rear axel that supplies an addative to the diesel prior to entering the engine and requires topping up during routine service intervals!!
Is this true or is he winding me up???

toolbah · Oct 10th, 2009, 20:42

Just found some posts about this system!! Thanx.
Interesting tho. Can you get this fuel additive from anywhere other than the dealers??

Clan · Oct 10th, 2009, 22:36

yes this must be topped up at 36000 mile intervals or you break down just after the following service . A number of manufacturers use this system but there are a number of different grades so would stick with the genuine volvo re-fill kit .
The FORD garage wouldnt have been able to do it properly anyway as it needs connecting to the volvo computer to reset the additive tank level gauge .

alfiembra · Oct 11th, 2009, 08:55

This is a new one on me, I too have a 1.6D S40 and didn't know I had this system on it. I have, occassionally, been adding Millers 4 sport to the odd tank of diesel on mine would could this be detrimental in any way considering there appears to be an additive going through already.

Alan

Clan · Oct 11th, 2009, 09:02

volvo forbid any engine oil or fuel additives , and to be honest they are un necessary . if there is a warranty claim with an engine or turbo and traces are found they will reject the claim ...

fatt133 · Oct 7th, 2011, 08:21

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Originally Posted by toolbah

Got talking to a chap today who has a S40 1.6D who he bought from a Ford main dealer. They serviced the car as per schedual prior to him collecting the car.
The following day the car played up and started to splutter etc etc. It turns out, according to him, that the Ford dealer did not refill a tank near the rear axel that supplies an addative to the diesel prior to entering the engine and requires topping up during routine service intervals!!
Is this true or is he winding me up???

Check your engine type, I have a similar car and have been quoted £120 for topping the additive tank up during a major service that's become due. The reasons for doing so are in the Volvo website under Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF). Note, if your car needs additive there is a need to to change the DPF at 75000 miles (I don't know how much it costs for a Volvo but for my sons Audi £1000).

Welton · Oct 7th, 2011, 15:43

This DPF system is like the one Peugeot introduced on the late 2.2 HDi's and it's a pain in the backside as the car ages and in some cases could wipe out your fuel savings overnight.

There's a re-map floating about for the Peugeot system that makes the ECU 'forget' it's there completely and you also crudely smash the DPF through with a hammer to remove the filter/restriction. The car still passes the MOT no trouble.

DPF regeneration is quite complex and looks at driving cycles, mileage, fill ups etc etc and decides when to do a 'burn off' (by injecting the Eolys fluid and raising the exhaust gas temp). I don't believe it's suited to people doing low mileages, more trouble than it's worth.

kiddo · Aug 30th, 2014, 16:12

I have a 2009 C30 DrivE 1.6d. It has just had a service and I've been told the additives tank has a leak. The repair would be somewhat costly according to the Volvo garage about £700. Does anyone know about this tank or had this work done? It has to go back in for this in the next 2 to 3 months. Do I really need it doing?

IainG · Aug 30th, 2014, 18:10

Hi
My v50's additive tank started leaking. Tried replacing the seals on the pump where it pushes into the tank. It still leaked. Had to replace the tank, I think about £250, and took me half an hour. I had bought a volvo refill kit so transferred the old fluid to the new tank and also topped it up. Had the counter reset at the next service at volvo.
ps I think £700 sounds a tad expensive for such an easy job, worth shopping around or asking for some discount!
Iain

Clan · Aug 30th, 2014, 18:19

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Originally Posted by kiddo

I have a 2009 C30 DrivE 1.6d. It has just had a service and I've been told the additives tank has a leak. The repair would be somewhat costly according to the Volvo garage about £700. Does anyone know about this tank or had this work done? It has to go back in for this in the next 2 to 3 months. Do I really need it doing?

It depends on what they mean by "leak" it could be running out or it could be a tiny leak which does not drip just stain . I have seen a few with tiny leaks and they keep going with no problem .
£700 seems quite expensive! I would ask for a breakdown of the costs .

Oct 10th, 2009, 20:32	#1
toolbah Master Member Last Online: Jul 5th, 2017 23:25 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Durham	Built in fuel additive system??? Got talking to a chap today who has a S40 1.6D who he bought from a Ford main dealer. They serviced the car as per schedual prior to him collecting the car. The following day the car played up and started to splutter etc etc. It turns out, according to him, that the Ford dealer did not refill a tank near the rear axel that supplies an addative to the diesel prior to entering the engine and requires topping up during routine service intervals!! Is this true or is he winding me up??? __________________ You missed a bit love. Now rub harder!!

Oct 10th, 2009, 20:42	#2
toolbah Master Member Last Online: Jul 5th, 2017 23:25 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Durham	Just found some posts about this system!! Thanx. Interesting tho. Can you get this fuel additive from anywhere other than the dealers?? __________________ You missed a bit love. Now rub harder!!

Oct 10th, 2009, 22:36	#3
Clan Experienced Member Last Online: Today 15:39 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L/H side	yes this must be topped up at 36000 mile intervals or you break down just after the following service . A number of manufacturers use this system but there are a number of different grades so would stick with the genuine volvo re-fill kit . The FORD garage wouldnt have been able to do it properly anyway as it needs connecting to the volvo computer to reset the additive tank level gauge . __________________ My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience .

Oct 11th, 2009, 09:02	#5
Clan Experienced Member Last Online: Today 15:39 Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: L/H side	volvo forbid any engine oil or fuel additives , and to be honest they are un necessary . if there is a warranty claim with an engine or turbo and traces are found they will reject the claim ... __________________ My comments are only based on my opinions and vast experience .

Oct 7th, 2011, 15:43	#7
Welton Premier Member Last Online: Sep 14th, 2021 17:03 Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Market Harborough	This DPF system is like the one Peugeot introduced on the late 2.2 HDi's and it's a pain in the backside as the car ages and in some cases could wipe out your fuel savings overnight. There's a re-map floating about for the Peugeot system that makes the ECU 'forget' it's there completely and you also crudely smash the DPF through with a hammer to remove the filter/restriction. The car still passes the MOT no trouble. DPF regeneration is quite complex and looks at driving cycles, mileage, fill ups etc etc and decides when to do a 'burn off' (by injecting the Eolys fluid and raising the exhaust gas temp). I don't believe it's suited to people doing low mileages, more trouble than it's worth. __________________ 2005 S40 T5 SE - Manual. Bilstein B4's. (For Sale) 2010 Citroen C4 1.6 HDi (bizarre Gearbox model). 2010 Renault Twingo (refreshingly simple) 2018 Infiniti Q30 1.6T Business Executive (what's this button do?)

Oct 11th, 2009, 08:55	#4
alfiembra Member Last Online: Sep 3rd, 2010 15:02 Join Date: Aug 2008 Location: Edinburgh	This is a new one on me, I too have a 1.6D S40 and didn't know I had this system on it. I have, occassionally, been adding Millers 4 sport to the odd tank of diesel on mine would could this be detrimental in any way considering there appears to be an additive going through already. Alan

Aug 30th, 2014, 16:12	#8
kiddo New Member Last Online: Sep 6th, 2014 18:12 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: greater london	Additives Tank I have a 2009 C30 DrivE 1.6d. It has just had a service and I've been told the additives tank has a leak. The repair would be somewhat costly according to the Volvo garage about £700. Does anyone know about this tank or had this work done? It has to go back in for this in the next 2 to 3 months. Do I really need it doing?

Aug 30th, 2014, 18:10	#9
IainG Premier Member Last Online: Yesterday 22:47 Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: Plymouth	Hi My v50's additive tank started leaking. Tried replacing the seals on the pump where it pushes into the tank. It still leaked. Had to replace the tank, I think about £250, and took me half an hour. I had bought a volvo refill kit so transferred the old fluid to the new tank and also topped it up. Had the counter reset at the next service at volvo. ps I think £700 sounds a tad expensive for such an easy job, worth shopping around or asking for some discount! Iain Last edited by IainG; Aug 30th, 2014 at 18:12.

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