Concern with Eco+

Milty · Sep 8th, 2014, 22:49

Slowly pulled onto the drive today and whilst making the last adjustment to position but going slowly, the engine stop/start kicked in and turned off. Still travelling at walking speed, I was left without power steering. A bit disconcerting but not a major issue.

By coincidence, I was researching what Eco+ does tonight and it seems that in Eco+ mode, the stop/start will kick in below 4mph.

This could be deemed a touch dangerous if I'm right? Any others found the same?

Serves me right for trying to save trees...Sport mode only from now on.

D4, geartronic se lux by the way. Oh, and I was given some Autosmart wax the other day. I'm not a detailing nut, but it seems like the dogs danglies to me.

Considered1 · Sep 9th, 2014, 09:36

You are spot on, i noticed this straight away, put me off using the Eco button initially but I'm now used to pressing it when parking up so that you don't loose power steering.

Flux · Sep 9th, 2014, 10:48

EC0+ caught me out too a few times too.

Bit hairy once when crossing from middle lane of a busy road and it cut out just as I was about to turn. OK started up immediately but loss of steering and power just at the time it was needed was a little disconcerting.

This will happen though as the ECO setting is designed to cut out before the car stops.

Gilesme · Sep 9th, 2014, 11:14

I'm not a fan of start-stop - switching a turbocharged hot engine off just seems the wrong thing to do !

Or does the oil pump keep running ?

Can you switch off stop-start permanently ?

Milty · Sep 9th, 2014, 21:34

Thanks for confirming I've not completely lost my marbles. As said, I'm not too bothered about it now I know it does it but was a shock as the wheelie bin was in the firing line.

Re stop/start and turbos, I put my faith in the designers and testing program that this has been considered and technology has moved on. There is a button for stop/start but not sure if it resets when you turn the car off.

taylorc · Sep 9th, 2014, 22:16

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Originally Posted by Gilesme

I'm not a fan of start-stop - switching a turbocharged hot engine off just seems the wrong thing to do !

Or does the oil pump keep running ?

Can you switch off stop-start permanently ?

I believe that pretty much all modern turbo cars keep the oil pump running for a short time after switching off to help prevent turbo failure.

GMcL · Sep 10th, 2014, 13:53

I thought they'd switched to water cooling of a turbo a long time ago because of the oil glazing onto the bearings.

I'm surprised at the power steering not being electrically assisted to prevent such a loading on the rack when the engine cuts out.

Sep 8th, 2014, 22:49	#1
Milty Junior Member Last Online: Mar 21st, 2015 00:12 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Worcester	Concern with Eco+ Slowly pulled onto the drive today and whilst making the last adjustment to position but going slowly, the engine stop/start kicked in and turned off. Still travelling at walking speed, I was left without power steering. A bit disconcerting but not a major issue. By coincidence, I was researching what Eco+ does tonight and it seems that in Eco+ mode, the stop/start will kick in below 4mph. This could be deemed a touch dangerous if I'm right? Any others found the same? Serves me right for trying to save trees...Sport mode only from now on. D4, geartronic se lux by the way. Oh, and I was given some Autosmart wax the other day. I'm not a detailing nut, but it seems like the dogs danglies to me.

Sep 9th, 2014, 09:36	#2
Considered1 Premier Member Last Online: Jul 13th, 2021 21:30 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: North Yorkshire	You are spot on, i noticed this straight away, put me off using the Eco button initially but I'm now used to pressing it when parking up so that you don't loose power steering. __________________ Audi RS6 5.0 v10 Quattro, Sepang Blue, Dynamic Ride Control BOSE TV 572hp 20" wheels Fuel Card! MY15 Volvo XC60 D4R-Design LuxNav FWD Auto Polestar 200HP, Saville Grey,Privacy,DSP,Winter illumination,On Call,Gear Shift,F&R Park Assist & Camera

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Flux Premier Member Last Online: Dec 20th, 2017 14:16 Join Date: Nov 2013 Location: North	EC0+ caught me out too a few times too. Bit hairy once when crossing from middle lane of a busy road and it cut out just as I was about to turn. OK started up immediately but loss of steering and power just at the time it was needed was a little disconcerting. This will happen though as the ECO setting is designed to cut out before the car stops. __________________ XC60 181 FWD R Design Lux Nav Geartronic - MY14.5

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Gilesme Senior Member Last Online: Apr 3rd, 2024 12:24 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Lytham	I'm not a fan of start-stop - switching a turbocharged hot engine off just seems the wrong thing to do ! Or does the oil pump keep running ? Can you switch off stop-start permanently ?

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Milty Junior Member Last Online: Mar 21st, 2015 00:12 Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Worcester	Thanks for confirming I've not completely lost my marbles. As said, I'm not too bothered about it now I know it does it but was a shock as the wheelie bin was in the firing line. Re stop/start and turbos, I put my faith in the designers and testing program that this has been considered and technology has moved on. There is a button for stop/start but not sure if it resets when you turn the car off.

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