Diesel DPF recall - Page 45

Clan · Jul 9th, 2014, 19:30

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Originally Posted by Bill_56

I didn't the D5 had an ETM at all, pre 2006 (euro 4)? It's not the EGR throttle I'm talking about, it is the one in the air intake.

If a part is not fitted, it is much less likely to fail and incur a £400 repair bill.

Yes i still prefer the original D5 up to 2004 .
The throttle flap on the air intake gets clogged by EGR soot and crankase oil fumes and it does help the EGR process by closing a bit increasing the engine suction across the egr port when EGR is needed.

AlainBrighton · Sep 8th, 2014, 00:11

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Originally Posted by Lozza

I too have had the recall letter 'Oil level may rise'. I was a little dubious as I was sure my V70 D5 ('07) didn't have a DPF. I've checked my VIN and I have a '4' as the 8th character, so that's good news for me.

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How that does work with knowing if you have DPF or not by reading your VIN ?
And if you mention the 8th character, is that from the start including the letters or not ? (Sorry, am a compliance analyst, I go into all kinds of useless details)

GrahamBrown1 · Sep 8th, 2014, 07:09

Basically What colour engine cover have you got? If it's black then you don't have a dpf and if it's grey you do. You can also have a quick look under the car and you will be able to see the dpf as it has two pipes running from it towards the front of the car.

AlainBrighton · Sep 8th, 2014, 08:37

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Originally Posted by GrahamBrown1

Basically What colour engine cover have you got? If it's black then you don't have a dpf and if it's grey you do. You can also have a quick look under the car and you will be able to see the dpf as it has two pipes running from it towards the front of the car.

Thank you, Graham, will ask the garage to have this checked immediately !

paulwtech · Sep 21st, 2014, 09:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bill_56

I've just received a recall letter, describing that with DPFs, under some driving conditions 'engine oil levels may rise'. The recall is to check the oil level + a software update. According to my letter, it affects S60/V70/XC70 & XC90, 2006 to 2009.

When they say 'oil level may rise', I assume they actually mean 'fuel may enter the sump', which I think I've read about elsewhere with DPFs.

Anybody know what it's all about? Is it some bodge to try and paper over the cracks in DPF technology, or is it a worthwhile improvement?

All vehicle recalls now have to be publicised; check here to see if your model is affected:
http://www.vosa.gov.uk/vosa/apps/rec...efault.asp?tx=
It should be specific to chassis number to filter out which variant is affected

pirooz · Feb 9th, 2015, 20:27

Hi Guys, I am new member looking for some advice.

I have a S40 Turbo Diesel. last week I had my engine with overrun problem, so with engine reaching 6000 rpm and engine stopped after 3 minutes and using 2 litres of fuel which was left in the tank. During the overrun the water expansion tank burst, white smoke every where and suddenly the engine stopped. I checked the oil resv and it was 1" above the max level of dipstick. I changed the oil and filled it up 2/3 between max and min. I changed the expansion tank but The car is not starting. The starter works and it sounds normal, but the engine is not starting. As the car isn't moving I called 3 mobile mechanics. They did not even try to start the car, one said my turbo is gone, 2nd one said the engine is dead, the 3rd one rejected the first 2 opinions but could not find the fault.
Does any one of you has heard similar story before? My car is Volvo s40 turbo diesel 2005-6 and has 1700000 on it and always been serviced by Volvo garage. I look forward to hear your opinions. Best regards.

volvorocks · Feb 9th, 2015, 20:46

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Originally Posted by pirooz

Does any one of you has heard similar story before? My car is Volvo s40 turbo diesel 2005-6 and has 1700000 on it and always been serviced by Volvo garage. I look forward to hear your opinions. Best regards.

1.7 million?...

Don't think yours has a dpf does it, if it is Euro 3 or 4?

The last time I had over run was on a van years ago and was because the engine ended up running on oil as it was knackered.

Regards

Nick44 · Feb 9th, 2015, 21:08

I don't think your car is one of the affected ones either. This was mainly the D5 engined variants with DPF software control that this thread relates to.

Could be wrong, V/S40 are not my specialist subject, but didn't this one have the Ad-Blue tank for DPF ( or particle burn off )

Any diesel engine will overrun if the sump oil is too high, seen this often, usually due to poor maintenance and/or overfilling the sump.

The coolant tank bursting indicates to me that the head gasket blew and you had products of combustion in the waterways, either that or a cylinder lining split.

at 170,000 miles no chance of a goodwill repair from Volvo, and I suspect your engine is finished, and with a 2005 S40 @ 170,000 the car probably is finished too. Sorry about that.

You don't say if it is manual or automatic. If manual, you should have put in top gear and dumped the clutch and stalled it. may have saved the engine, but too late now.

Dieseltech · Mar 22nd, 2015, 00:48

Dpf regeneration is done via differen methods,the most common on cars is with help from the commonrail injector.when the pressure inside the filter hits a point wheras the filter needs cleaning(regenerating)the vehicle ECU sets off the process when the driving conditions are correct eg not on the M6 nr Warrington southbound at 7am weekdays,the ECU shuts off pre injection and adds an extra post injection when the exhaust valves are still open thus heat from combustion entering the system as the filter needs to be at around 600 degrees C but when the exhaust valves eventually close there is still fuel in the cyl uncombusted which ends up in the sump.the amount of failed attempts to regen depends on how long you drive at a constant speed at high revs for ie if it is halfway through a regen and you say pull off the motorway the attempt is aborted and starts again when the conditions are right again,dont you just love emmision saving devices.the problem with DPF is that prior to them and you had an issue with EGR or Injectors dribbling you could see rhe colour of smoke at the back now if u dont notice any differance in performance the only time you would find that out is when ur DPF light comes on and the DPF is totaly blocked and cant Regen itself and its time for a new one and a bank loan to suit

zuckerman · Dec 6th, 2015, 18:10

Has there been any resolution of this problem?

I have a 2006 V50 with the D 4204 T engine. Since early 2013 there have been repeated breakdowns involving excess oil levels. One incident of uncontrolled acceleration and several of the car going into 'safe' mode and losing all power, with the 'Engine system needs service' message. The car has also been found to have excess oil levels on various other occasions, when checked. The DPF has been replaced, the injectors have been re-conditionned, but the problem keeps recurring. All regular servicing has been done by Volvo and the breakdowns also. Our local dealer now seems lost about what to do. I have tried to raise a complaint with Volvo Customer Relations, but they have been unhelpful and off-hand.
Any advice would be very gratefully received.

Sep 8th, 2014, 07:09	#443
GrahamBrown1 VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 23:00 Join Date: Feb 2013 Location: North Yorkshire	Basically What colour engine cover have you got? If it's black then you don't have a dpf and if it's grey you do. You can also have a quick look under the car and you will be able to see the dpf as it has two pipes running from it towards the front of the car. __________________ Previous -03 S40, 04 V70 D5, 04 V70 D5 Sport, 05 V50, 07 S60 D5, 09 V70 D5 R design, 12 XC60 DrivE, 15 V60 D3 Current- 05 XC90 D5 Exec, 12 XC70 D4 AWD Se Lux, 14 S80 D3 Se Lux

Feb 9th, 2015, 20:27	#446
pirooz New Member Last Online: Feb 9th, 2015 20:57 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Guildford	Volvo S40 Diesel Engine overrun Hi Guys, I am new member looking for some advice. I have a S40 Turbo Diesel. last week I had my engine with overrun problem, so with engine reaching 6000 rpm and engine stopped after 3 minutes and using 2 litres of fuel which was left in the tank. During the overrun the water expansion tank burst, white smoke every where and suddenly the engine stopped. I checked the oil resv and it was 1" above the max level of dipstick. I changed the oil and filled it up 2/3 between max and min. I changed the expansion tank but The car is not starting. The starter works and it sounds normal, but the engine is not starting. As the car isn't moving I called 3 mobile mechanics. They did not even try to start the car, one said my turbo is gone, 2nd one said the engine is dead, the 3rd one rejected the first 2 opinions but could not find the fault. Does any one of you has heard similar story before? My car is Volvo s40 turbo diesel 2005-6 and has 1700000 on it and always been serviced by Volvo garage. I look forward to hear your opinions. Best regards.

Feb 9th, 2015, 21:08	#448
Nick44 Ex 850/V70 Register Keepe Last Online: Nov 22nd, 2022 15:29 Join Date: May 2006 Location: Hoo, Kent View Photos By: Nick44	I don't think your car is one of the affected ones either. This was mainly the D5 engined variants with DPF software control that this thread relates to. Could be wrong, V/S40 are not my specialist subject, but didn't this one have the Ad-Blue tank for DPF ( or particle burn off ) Any diesel engine will overrun if the sump oil is too high, seen this often, usually due to poor maintenance and/or overfilling the sump. The coolant tank bursting indicates to me that the head gasket blew and you had products of combustion in the waterways, either that or a cylinder lining split. at 170,000 miles no chance of a goodwill repair from Volvo, and I suspect your engine is finished, and with a 2005 S40 @ 170,000 the car probably is finished too. Sorry about that. You don't say if it is manual or automatic. If manual, you should have put in top gear and dumped the clutch and stalled it. may have saved the engine, but too late now. __________________ 66,145,264 GLE,265 GLE (2 off),765 GLE,740 GL Estate, G 760 GLE Estate, N 960 CDi, W 940 SE,'51 V70 T,'56 V70 T5. '57 G3 V70 D5 '10 V70 T6 AWD Polestar (Bye Bye), Wife's '03 S80 SE I like Volvos.

Mar 22nd, 2015, 00:48	#449
Dieseltech New Member Last Online: Jul 25th, 2016 11:39 Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: Chorley	Dpf regeneration Dpf regeneration is done via differen methods,the most common on cars is with help from the commonrail injector.when the pressure inside the filter hits a point wheras the filter needs cleaning(regenerating)the vehicle ECU sets off the process when the driving conditions are correct eg not on the M6 nr Warrington southbound at 7am weekdays,the ECU shuts off pre injection and adds an extra post injection when the exhaust valves are still open thus heat from combustion entering the system as the filter needs to be at around 600 degrees C but when the exhaust valves eventually close there is still fuel in the cyl uncombusted which ends up in the sump.the amount of failed attempts to regen depends on how long you drive at a constant speed at high revs for ie if it is halfway through a regen and you say pull off the motorway the attempt is aborted and starts again when the conditions are right again,dont you just love emmision saving devices.the problem with DPF is that prior to them and you had an issue with EGR or Injectors dribbling you could see rhe colour of smoke at the back now if u dont notice any differance in performance the only time you would find that out is when ur DPF light comes on and the DPF is totaly blocked and cant Regen itself and its time for a new one and a bank loan to suit

Dec 6th, 2015, 18:10	#450
zuckerman New Member Last Online: Dec 6th, 2015 18:10 Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: London	Chronic problem with rising oil level Has there been any resolution of this problem? I have a 2006 V50 with the D 4204 T engine. Since early 2013 there have been repeated breakdowns involving excess oil levels. One incident of uncontrolled acceleration and several of the car going into 'safe' mode and losing all power, with the 'Engine system needs service' message. The car has also been found to have excess oil levels on various other occasions, when checked. The DPF has been replaced, the injectors have been re-conditionned, but the problem keeps recurring. All regular servicing has been done by Volvo and the breakdowns also. Our local dealer now seems lost about what to do. I have tried to raise a complaint with Volvo Customer Relations, but they have been unhelpful and off-hand. Any advice would be very gratefully received.

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