Buying advice - rust (pictures attached)

NickP · Jul 1st, 2017, 23:22

I'm interested in buying a 240. I went to see it today and it seems great mechanically, I just want some advice on the bodywork. I'm not really experienced in dealing with significant rust. I only treated and filled a couple of pretty minor bits on a mk2 golf 17 years ago.

Here's the obvious bits I could see:

Rear of n/s sill:

o/s/r arch:

At this stage how would you recommend proceeding with the rear arches? Should I budget to replace the sills in the next couple of years. There has been a bit of rust patched on the o/s already in response to an MOT advisory as its in the prescribed area.

What about that last shot - how worried should I be about that?

Thanks.

classicswede · Jul 2nd, 2017, 00:08

The sills could just have the ends repaired.

The arch is normal

The A pillar is common ish and can be fixed.

I would suggest lifing teh carpets and checking along teh seam from teh floor to teh sills.

mrredwards · Jul 3rd, 2017, 17:55

Hi Walk away from it,Save some more money and buy a better condition one.Once you start repairing rust hole more and more appear.Any way thats my opinion.Regards Ron.

volvo always · Jul 3rd, 2017, 18:40

Quote:

Originally Posted by mrredwards

Hi Walk away from it,Save some more money and buy a better condition one.Once you start repairing rust hole more and more appear.Any way thats my opinion.Regards Ron.

I totally agree

Unless it's very cheap. But as said buy a better example.

I bet there is more holes/ rust on outriggers and floor pan and behind the rear bumper. Seems far far more holed than my 1989 240.

If your really set on it see if you can get a welding quote before purchase and get it up on a ramp and have a good poke around underneath and also look at the rear suspension top mountings.

Welding properly by cutting it out and welding in new metal isn't cheap.

James

Triple-S · Jul 3rd, 2017, 19:20

Totally agree with both last replies. I should have done a detailed examination on one I bought a few years back, but instead banked on honesty from seller (who I'd known for years). At next MoT was quoted over £500 for sill ends and outrigger welding, which was far more than I paid for the car as the paint was a bit scruffy.
Do not learn the hard way like I did - the one I did purchase was less than that with minimal rust and a years MoT and tax, and I still have that car, all legal and in occasional use.

P

Derek UK · Jul 3rd, 2017, 20:33

+1 to that. It's already been plated once at the end of the sill shown and what's above it looks like rusty filler. A post rust looks pretty scary too. Check the MOT history if you like but an easy car to walk away from.

NickP · Jul 3rd, 2017, 22:04

Thanks for your input chaps. Appreciated. It's had a "Rear Upper Body has slight corrosion" (6.1.B.2) the last couple of years (last MOT was April 2017) and an "Offside Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive outer sill" (5.2.6) in 2016 which was patched neatly.

Good to have the feedback from you as I'd not been to see any other examples, so didn't have a point of reference.

neilnelson · Jul 4th, 2017, 08:41

How much is it on for?

NickP · Jul 4th, 2017, 12:01

A little under £2k

neilnelson · Jul 4th, 2017, 14:08

unless it has under 100k mileage i'd walk away.
you can have my mine for less than that and its rust free(ish!).

Jul 1st, 2017, 23:22	#1
NickP Member Last Online: Mar 3rd, 2024 10:07 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Sheffield	Buying advice - rust (pictures attached) I'm interested in buying a 240. I went to see it today and it seems great mechanically, I just want some advice on the bodywork. I'm not really experienced in dealing with significant rust. I only treated and filled a couple of pretty minor bits on a mk2 golf 17 years ago. Here's the obvious bits I could see: Rear of n/s sill: o/s/r arch: At this stage how would you recommend proceeding with the rear arches? Should I budget to replace the sills in the next couple of years. There has been a bit of rust patched on the o/s already in response to an MOT advisory as its in the prescribed area. What about that last shot - how worried should I be about that? Thanks. __________________ Current: MY24 Vapour Grey B5 XC90, 2004 C70 T5 Collection (manual), 1993 940 estate. Previously: 2006 S80 V8 Sport, 1998 V70 2.5 20v XLT, 2008 V50 T5 R-Design.

Jul 2nd, 2017, 00:08	#2
classicswede Trader Volvo in my veins Last Online: Today 08:21 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Anglesey	The sills could just have the ends repaired. The arch is normal The A pillar is common ish and can be fixed. I would suggest lifing teh carpets and checking along teh seam from teh floor to teh sills. __________________ http://www.classicswede.org www.classicswede.co.uk

Jul 3rd, 2017, 17:55	#3
mrredwards Member Last Online: Apr 6th, 2024 14:19 Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: sevenoaks	Buying Advice Hi Walk away from it,Save some more money and buy a better condition one.Once you start repairing rust hole more and more appear.Any way thats my opinion.Regards Ron.

Jul 3rd, 2017, 22:04	#7
NickP Member Last Online: Mar 3rd, 2024 10:07 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Sheffield	Thanks for your input chaps. Appreciated. It's had a "Rear Upper Body has slight corrosion" (6.1.B.2) the last couple of years (last MOT was April 2017) and an "Offside Seat belt anchorage prescribed area is corroded but not considered excessive outer sill" (5.2.6) in 2016 which was patched neatly. Good to have the feedback from you as I'd not been to see any other examples, so didn't have a point of reference. __________________ Current: MY24 Vapour Grey B5 XC90, 2004 C70 T5 Collection (manual), 1993 940 estate. Previously: 2006 S80 V8 Sport, 1998 V70 2.5 20v XLT, 2008 V50 T5 R-Design. Last edited by NickP; Jul 3rd, 2017 at 22:09.

Jul 4th, 2017, 12:01	#9
NickP Member Last Online: Mar 3rd, 2024 10:07 Join Date: Jan 2014 Location: Sheffield	A little under £2k __________________ Current: MY24 Vapour Grey B5 XC90, 2004 C70 T5 Collection (manual), 1993 940 estate. Previously: 2006 S80 V8 Sport, 1998 V70 2.5 20v XLT, 2008 V50 T5 R-Design.

Jul 3rd, 2017, 19:20	#5
Triple-S How Old? Last Online: May 31st, 2021 12:28 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: redhill	Totally agree with both last replies. I should have done a detailed examination on one I bought a few years back, but instead banked on honesty from seller (who I'd known for years). At next MoT was quoted over £500 for sill ends and outrigger welding, which was far more than I paid for the car as the paint was a bit scruffy. Do not learn the hard way like I did - the one I did purchase was less than that with minimal rust and a years MoT and tax, and I still have that car, all legal and in occasional use. P

Jul 3rd, 2017, 20:33	#6
Derek UK VOC Member Last Online: Yesterday 14:24 Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Chatham	+1 to that. It's already been plated once at the end of the sill shown and what's above it looks like rusty filler. A post rust looks pretty scary too. Check the MOT history if you like but an easy car to walk away from.

Jul 4th, 2017, 08:41	#8
neilnelson Junior Member Last Online: Sep 11th, 2018 14:35 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Birmingham	How much is it on for?

Jul 4th, 2017, 14:08	#10
neilnelson Junior Member Last Online: Sep 11th, 2018 14:35 Join Date: Oct 2014 Location: Birmingham	unless it has under 100k mileage i'd walk away. you can have my mine for less than that and its rust free(ish!).

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