Body/Trim: Window winder opinioon

[morsing]

Hi,

I really need to replace both front winder. Driver's side gear is very worn and both side struggle to go up.

What are people's opinions on something like this? Or is there something better available?

http://www.skandix.de/en/spare-parts...ctric/1016566/

Thanks

[Bob Meadows]

Hendrick: ~ have you looked on eBay or similar for Volvo 240 breaking- quite a few on at present, you should find descent used items via the above or breakers yards.

These normally have a long life- just a part needed??
Regards Bob

[morsing]

Originally Posted by Bob Meadows

Hendrick: ~ have you looked on eBay or similar for Volvo 240 breaking- quite a few on at present, you should find descent used items via the above or breakers yards.

These normally have a long life- just a part needed??
Regards Bob

Hi,

I could possibly get a second hand one - but that was why I was asking about people's experiences with these new ones. I'm not out to save money.

What do you mean "Part needed"? These mechanisms only really have two parts - I've spent years trying to get them to work so any insight in to which part is needed would be great.

Well, that being said, on the driver's side it would be the circular drive on the arm-mechanism as it's completely worn down.

On the passenger side... Who knows. I even spoke to a motor refurbishing shop once, who said it would probably be around 200gbp to refurbish the motor, but as I don't know if the motor is the actual problem, I have been reluctant to go down that route...

Thanks

[Clifford Pope]

Originally Posted by morsing

What are people's opinions on something like this?

It says with motor but without engine.

What's the engine? It seems an awful lot of money if that means the electric motor isn't included. (Although not the £149,000 I first read it as )

[Jungle_Jim]

Originally Posted by morsing

Hi,
Well, that being said, on the driver's side it would be the circular drive on the arm-mechanism as it's completely worn down.

That's surprising Henrik - what's the mileage of the car if you've worn that out? The window must have gone up and down thousands of times!! Or is it so corroded it's practically seized?

On the passenger side... Who knows. I even spoke to a motor refurbishing shop once, who said it would probably be around 200gbp to refurbish the motor, but as I don't know if the motor is the actual problem, I have been reluctant to go down that route...
Thanks

Firstly establish that there's 12 volts going to the motor when the switch is pressed one way, and -12v if pressed the other way. Check 12v is coming into the door, and check the switch. If that's ok presumably you know it's the motor, unless the frame is all seized up, and the motor is groaning and clicking but going nowhere.

There was a recent discussion about this topic
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=287247
and I gave a quick rundown of refurbishing one of those motors.

I was saying that they've hardly got anything to them - you can pull one apart, clean up the electrical connections and lubricate the bearings and it's more than likely going to work for 20 minutes worth of work. Even if you know nothing about motors you'll soon see they're so simple.

My suggestion would be to get some 2nd hand ones off a breaker (I'm mean the whole motor-plus-scissor-frame sub-assembly), even get a second pair of 2nd hand motors to play with.

I reckon £150 per side can be avoided, and £200 to refurb one of those motors would be over-the-top.

My two-bobs worth,
John

[morsing]

Originally Posted by Jungle_Jim

That's surprising Henrik - what's the mileage of the car if you've worn that out? The window must have gone up and down thousands of times!! Or is it so corroded it's practically seized?

Hi, it's done 374.000 miles. It's not corroded, it's in use all the time. You can hear by the tikkety-tik sound the teeth are worn.

Originally Posted by Jungle_Jim

Firstly establish that there's 12 volts going to the motor when the switch is pressed one way, and -12v if pressed the other way. Check 12v is coming into the door, and check the switch. If that's ok presumably you know it's the motor, unless the frame is all seized up, and the motor is groaning and clicking but going nowhere.

As said, I've spent years on this, I don't really need a 101 trouble shooting guide.

Originally Posted by Jungle_Jim

There was a recent discussion about this topic
https://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=287247
and I gave a quick rundown of refurbishing one of those motors.

I was saying that they've hardly got anything to them - you can pull one apart, clean up the electrical connections and lubricate the bearings and it's more than likely going to work for 20 minutes worth of work. Even if you know nothing about motors you'll soon see they're so simple.

Yes, as said, I've done it several times, the motor might be 20 minutes, getting it out is not!

I think motor is fine. On the passenger side, god knows what is making it slow/stop, I've certainly greased the mechanism several times and I've adjusted it according to Mike BRace' instructions as well.

Originally Posted by Jungle_Jim

My suggestion would be to get some 2nd hand ones off a breaker (I'm mean the whole motor-plus-scissor-frame sub-assembly), even get a second pair of 2nd hand motors to play with.

I reckon £150 per side can be avoided, and £200 to refurb one of those motors would be over-the-top.

The £200 wasn't just a refurb, it was a rewind + refurb.

Ok, so with regards to my original question, people seem to think second hand Volvo is better than third party new. As mentioned, I'm not trying to save money though, I don't wnat to end up with a 2nd hand that's slow/stuck as well.

I'll have a look around Ebay.

Thank