V70: Engine D4204T5 excessive oil burn

[Dante86]

Dear Members,

I have bought a VOLVO V70 from year 2015 with D4204T5 (D4 Diesel) engine 3 weeks ago. The car run 192000 km.

I drove the first 1000 km without any problem. I went to a Volvo dealer for a re-call (I was told that a vent pipe must be installed in the cooling system).

After 200-300 km from re-call the message appeared on the dash board: add 0,5 half litre of oil, so I did.
After another 200 km the same message appeared, so I did again, but started to monitor the oil level on the dash board. Every morning and evening when I sat into the car checked, and it always showed the normal amount (only the stripe under max indication was missing).

After 200-250 km, yesterday the "add 0,5 half litre of oil" message appeared again. When I wanted to make the measurement, the dash board wrote "not available"

I went immediately to the Volvo dealer and I was told that they had to calibrate the oil measure on the dashboard with the computer and had to add 1 litre of oil. Now I shall wait, if error message pop up again or not.

TBH, I am a bit concerned, because within 2 weeks and 500 km almost 2 litre of oil had to be added. I see no oil leak on the floor. No black/blue exhaust gas coming, no power loss, nothing.

Please, help me. Can anyone had similar problem?

Thank you!

[Tatsfield]

Don't believe in coincidences! Suspect that the dealer forgot to put enough oil in the engine and all the "calibration" story is to cover his responsibility for his lack of competence. As you say, 2 litres of oil is a lot of oil to disappear without trace. I think if there was no oil at all in the engine, you would have discovered by way of indications other than dash warnings!

[Zebster]

It's quite possible the high oil consumption was happening when you brought the car and was maybe the reason for the previous owner selling the vehicle? And you wouldn't notice excess smoking due to the DPF.

Mine needs the odd top-up, but nothing alarming like that!

[Dante86]

Originally Posted by Zebster

It's quite possible the high oil consumption was happening when you brought the car and was maybe the reason for the previous owner selling the vehicle? And you wouldn't notice excess smoking due to the DPF.

Mine needs the odd top-up, but nothing alarming like that!

I am not sure. The sellers seemed to be reliable, older and rich person. They know I am lawyer, so I put a claim against them if this is the case, and also my first 1000 km was free of this problem.

[Dante86]

Originally Posted by Tatsfield

Don't believe in coincidences! Suspect that the dealer forgot to put enough oil in the engine and all the "calibration" story is to cover his responsibility for his lack of competence. As you say, 2 litres of oil is a lot of oil to disappear without trace. I think if there was no oil at all in the engine, you would have discovered by way of indications other than dash warnings!

But as far as I understood, during the re-call service the oil was not changed, only some hose has been installed into the cooling system.

[piotrek]

The most probable reason for excessive oil consumption are pre-2016 piston oil rings. Piston rings were modified in mid-2016. To avoid mass recall, Volvo considered 0.5l/1000 km oil consumption as normal and would not cover piston+rings replacement.

Technical Journal in the US (diesel D4 engines - not sold in the US - suffered identical problem)
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/20...46443-9999.pdf

https://youtu.be/8yJoHgwiwio

[AlexV70Drive1]

I’d take the car back for a refund or whatever you have to do to reclaim your money. I’m guessing you didn’t buy it knowing or suspecting it had oil consumption issues so you shouldn’t have to deal with it. Only 3 weeks in your possession so I’d just get rid one way or another and go buy another one! Unless it was so cheap in the first place that you can afford to do the work and still not have spent the same amount as one in sorted condition with the same miles.

[Dante86]

Dear Members,

With many thanks to Piotrek, I bought an ELM327 OBDII reader.
After the Volvo dealer did the oil top up and sensor calibration, I drove like 40 km and Car Scenner app showed 39mm engine oil level. The oil level was varying between 32 - 40 mm at the beginning depending on if I made the measurement in the morning or after driving (the latter is the higher volume).

Today, 670 km after the last top up, Car Scanner shows the oil level between 10 - 15 mm, however I have not received any message regarding "add 0,5 oil" so far (which I believe is very strange since as far as I know below 22 mm it should pop up already).
In the dashboard the oil level measurement gauge most of the time says nowadays "not available" and one or times indicated that "low oil level".

One more interesting info. I called the Volvo dealer where the previous owner used to take the car and ask them, if they were aware of any oil consumption problem of this car, but the answer was "no", however I have been told that the car 10.000 km ago had a warranty repair about the intake manifold melting problem, where they replaced also the valves, the EGR and the EGR cooler. I am not sure if this can be in connection with each other or no.

Tomorrow I go back to the official dealer and ask them to carry out the VIDA measurement.... Actually I like the car very much, instead of this it so perfect and lovable.

I am also thinking of putting in a bit thicker oil, maybe 0w30 or 0w40.

[Valdas1988]

So did you resloved oi burning problems? Because I got a same problem and now I will do replace pistons+rings of my car.

Originally Posted by Dante86

Dear Members,

With many thanks to Piotrek, I bought an ELM327 OBDII reader.
After the Volvo dealer did the oil top up and sensor calibration, I drove like 40 km and Car Scenner app showed 39mm engine oil level. The oil level was varying between 32 - 40 mm at the beginning depending on if I made the measurement in the morning or after driving (the latter is the higher volume).

Today, 670 km after the last top up, Car Scanner shows the oil level between 10 - 15 mm, however I have not received any message regarding "add 0,5 oil" so far (which I believe is very strange since as far as I know below 22 mm it should pop up already).
In the dashboard the oil level measurement gauge most of the time says nowadays "not available" and one or times indicated that "low oil level".

One more interesting info. I called the Volvo dealer where the previous owner used to take the car and ask them, if they were aware of any oil consumption problem of this car, but the answer was "no", however I have been told that the car 10.000 km ago had a warranty repair about the intake manifold melting problem, where they replaced also the valves, the EGR and the EGR cooler. I am not sure if this can be in connection with each other or no.

Tomorrow I go back to the official dealer and ask them to carry out the VIDA measurement.... Actually I like the car very much, instead of this it so perfect and lovable.

I am also thinking of putting in a bit thicker oil, maybe 0w30 or 0w40.

[Dante86]

Originally Posted by Valdas1988

So did you resloved oi burning problems? Because I got a same problem and now I will do replace pistons+rings of my car.

Not yet. Today Volvo diagnosed that there is no significant oil leak in the engine, so I was told this high oil consumption may be connected to a bad Turbo and/or piston rings.