Door window winder

[charlski]

Trying to get all the small jobs sorted, before the weather actually gets warm!! could someone please clarify the positioning of the pieces of the window winder. I have the winder, a plastic disc a circlip, a spring and a metal cup. My logic is that the plastic disc sits over the winder. With the metal cup inside this of which the wide end of the spring sits in, this is then pushed onto the winder mechanism in the door and held in place on the mechanism with the circlip that is on the winder. Trouble is when I do this and wind the window For a couple of revolutions it all pings off with the pressure of the spring.... Am I missing something?? Thanks.

[Ron Kwas]

Charlski;

Your symptoms mean that Omega clip is not captured in its intended depression in splined shaft...which means that handle is not pushed onto shaft adequately...try pushing on further to seat correctly...first assure the Omega clip is positioned (centered!) to allow it to be splayed open by lead angle of shaft-end...then riding up lead angle, sliding along shaft, to finally pop into depression, fully seated. If not centered, clip will block insertion. Lubing shaft with a little wax may help...
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Good Hunting!

[charlski]

Excellent!! Thanks for that so everything in the right order just need to push on a bit more aggressively. It felt like it clicked in place but clearly not.

[skysurfer]

Are there two designs for the window winder handles? I have the earlier squarish protruding plastic knobs on my '69 130 but believe the later cars were actually fitted with flusher round plastic knobs. I think the plastic backing plate is also different and not interchangeable ?

[classicswede]

The backing plates are the same. Best way is to push it on then a firm tap with the palm of your hand

[CLIVERALLY]

worked for me-- a big wack after waxing....sounds like a dodgy massage parlour... although I still think drilling the handle and the regulator splined stub and fitting a roll pin would work better .. sadly I think its made of monkey metal

[skysurfer]

Thanks for the responses. I seem to have a rogue squarish protruding winder as it has a chrome spur at the back which prevents it being used with the standard plastic backing plate. Maybe it was for another model ? I therefore need to get another winder without this spur.

[Derek UK]

Pictures? Is the other side the same type? Car model and year?

[skysurfer]

It's a 69' two door 122S model. At the moment it's got mismatched winders on the doors, although both plastic backing plates are the same. I believe the '69 model had the round winder knobs rather than the squareish protruding knobs which may be from the earlier models. I'll try and post some photos.