Clutch release bearing > new clutch required??

JO5EPH · Mar 13th, 2006, 19:14

I'm having 'issues' with the clutch on my S70 T5 (1997).

It sometimes makes a whining/moaning sound when setting off in 1st gear.

Apparently its the release bearing, which, after a bit of reading, I've found out that there's differeing opinions on this;

1. "It needs to be replaced ASAP"

2. "It just needs replacing whenever the clutch needs replacing"

Thoughts people.....

Cheers

Joe

P.S, should the clutch need replaced, I understand that I should replace every other part too, but just a couple of queries;

Q1. Is it worthwhile fitting an uprated clutch while i'm at it? (any reccomendations?)

Q2. Can anyone reccomend a decent independant garage that will undertake the work (preferebly in NW England).

Q3. How much am I looking at? Around the 500 mark??

sholtby · Mar 13th, 2006, 19:59

A faulty release bearing only really makes a noise when the clutch is depressed as that is the only time the bearing is spinning.
I'd always replace clutch and bearing at the same time due to the labour cost of removing the gearbox.
A standard clutch will last around 100k miles under normal conditions so its up to you to decide if this is adequate.
A clutch kit costs about £170 and there is quite a bit of labout to add to that so yes I'd budget on £500

Simon

JO5EPH · Mar 13th, 2006, 21:23

Quote:

Originally Posted by sholtby

A faulty release bearing only really makes a noise when the clutch is depressed as that is the only time the bearing is spinning.

Oh, so any idea what's the problem with mine?

(It squeaks/moans on occasion when setting off in 1st gear, just at the point of biting)

Many thanks,

Joe

STE-MAL · Mar 14th, 2006, 01:21

Now without hearing the noise I can't be sure, but from your description and my experience of such noises, (not on cars but on trucks) it could be the spigot bearing spinning in the flywheel. Although looking at my system (VADIS) it looks like it is in a recess in the crank shaft. Please correct me guy's and gal's if I'm wrong!!

cootuk · Mar 14th, 2006, 03:58

If it isn't slipping then I'd leave it - it seems to be a 'feature' on some cars.

ShadeTek · Mar 14th, 2006, 16:42

While doing the clutch and bearing, you may as well do the rear main seal while in there. Costs an extra hours labour and parts.

JO5EPH · Mar 14th, 2006, 20:17

Cheers Steve

so if it is a recess in the crank shaft, what does that mean??

with regards to;
1. What needs doing?
2. How much will it cost?

It also seems to make this noise (occasionly) when engaging 2nd gear at the point of biting, i'm not sure if it's actually slipping, or it's just the noise that's getting my attention!

Thanks for the feedback,

Joe

STE-MAL · Mar 15th, 2006, 01:08

Without sounding rude, (I HOPE I DON'T) the best thing you could do is have the clutch replaced, if you are worried about the noise you have. I would replace the rear main oil seal, the spiggot bearing, and the entire clutch as well (pressure plate, friction plate and release bearing). It must be one of these at fault. It's a big job to get to all those things so you may as well replace the lot while your in their. I would!!

STE-MAL · Mar 15th, 2006, 01:09

Oh yes and the cost. Sorry but it's not going to cheap!!!

JO5EPH · Mar 15th, 2006, 13:38

I here what you're saying steve, and I will do everything when the clutch needs replacing, but I might just leave it until it actually starts slipping.

It's working fine, it's just the noise that bugs me!

Cheers,

Joe

Mar 13th, 2006, 19:14	#1
JO5EPH Junior Member Last Online: Nov 2nd, 2008 12:46 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lancaster	Clutch release bearing > new clutch required?? I'm having 'issues' with the clutch on my S70 T5 (1997). It sometimes makes a whining/moaning sound when setting off in 1st gear. Apparently its the release bearing, which, after a bit of reading, I've found out that there's differeing opinions on this; 1. "It needs to be replaced ASAP" 2. "It just needs replacing whenever the clutch needs replacing" Thoughts people..... Cheers Joe P.S, should the clutch need replaced, I understand that I should replace every other part too, but just a couple of queries; Q1. Is it worthwhile fitting an uprated clutch while i'm at it? (any reccomendations?) Q2. Can anyone reccomend a decent independant garage that will undertake the work (preferebly in NW England). Q3. How much am I looking at? Around the 500 mark?? __________________ If everything's under control, you're not going fast enough!

Mar 13th, 2006, 19:59	#2
sholtby Premier Member Last Online: May 26th, 2010 20:17 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: north east	A faulty release bearing only really makes a noise when the clutch is depressed as that is the only time the bearing is spinning. I'd always replace clutch and bearing at the same time due to the labour cost of removing the gearbox. A standard clutch will last around 100k miles under normal conditions so its up to you to decide if this is adequate. A clutch kit costs about £170 and there is quite a bit of labout to add to that so yes I'd budget on £500 Simon __________________ '94 Celica GT4, HKS EVC 4 boost controller ~280 bhp ex. '95 850 T5 owner

Mar 14th, 2006, 01:21	#4
STE-MAL You Can't Beat A Swede Last Online: Aug 3rd, 2019 18:33 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kesgrave View Photos By: STE-MAL	Now without hearing the noise I can't be sure, but from your description and my experience of such noises, (not on cars but on trucks) it could be the spigot bearing spinning in the flywheel. Although looking at my system (VADIS) it looks like it is in a recess in the crank shaft. Please correct me guy's and gal's if I'm wrong!! __________________ 1993 850 2.0 20v SE Auto, 1996 850 T-5 CD Auto 1998 V70 R Manual, 2001 S80 D5 SE manual 2007 S80 V8 AWD Auto 2017 V40 T-3 Inscription Auto

Mar 14th, 2006, 16:42	#6
ShadeTek Premier Member Last Online: Apr 20th, 2024 19:38 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Renfrewshire View Photos By: ShadeTek	While doing the clutch and bearing, you may as well do the rear main seal while in there. Costs an extra hours labour and parts. __________________ Tek-Emo Villis Emo Bis V70 SE NAV 1.6 D2 2015MY POWERSHIFT, D4162T, 93000miles, RED. /VOL FCR/PEPER OBD2/Acron 9135 OBD2/L.E.D Flasher/VDASH/ANCEL BA301/Topdon Top Scan

Mar 14th, 2006, 20:17	#7
JO5EPH Junior Member Last Online: Nov 2nd, 2008 12:46 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lancaster	Cheers Steve so if it is a recess in the crank shaft, what does that mean?? with regards to; 1. What needs doing? 2. How much will it cost? It also seems to make this noise (occasionly) when engaging 2nd gear at the point of biting, i'm not sure if it's actually slipping, or it's just the noise that's getting my attention! Thanks for the feedback, Joe __________________ If everything's under control, you're not going fast enough!

Mar 14th, 2006, 03:58	#5
cootuk Premier Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2013 20:52 Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: bradford	If it isn't slipping then I'd leave it - it seems to be a 'feature' on some cars.

Mar 15th, 2006, 01:08	#8
STE-MAL You Can't Beat A Swede Last Online: Aug 3rd, 2019 18:33 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kesgrave View Photos By: STE-MAL	Without sounding rude, (I HOPE I DON'T) the best thing you could do is have the clutch replaced, if you are worried about the noise you have. I would replace the rear main oil seal, the spiggot bearing, and the entire clutch as well (pressure plate, friction plate and release bearing). It must be one of these at fault. It's a big job to get to all those things so you may as well replace the lot while your in their. I would!! __________________ 1993 850 2.0 20v SE Auto, 1996 850 T-5 CD Auto 1998 V70 R Manual, 2001 S80 D5 SE manual 2007 S80 V8 AWD Auto 2017 V40 T-3 Inscription Auto

Mar 15th, 2006, 01:09	#9
STE-MAL You Can't Beat A Swede Last Online: Aug 3rd, 2019 18:33 Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Kesgrave View Photos By: STE-MAL	Oh yes and the cost. Sorry but it's not going to cheap!!! __________________ 1993 850 2.0 20v SE Auto, 1996 850 T-5 CD Auto 1998 V70 R Manual, 2001 S80 D5 SE manual 2007 S80 V8 AWD Auto 2017 V40 T-3 Inscription Auto

Mar 15th, 2006, 13:38	#10
JO5EPH Junior Member Last Online: Nov 2nd, 2008 12:46 Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Lancaster	I here what you're saying steve, and I will do everything when the clutch needs replacing, but I might just leave it until it actually starts slipping. It's working fine, it's just the noise that bugs me! Cheers, Joe __________________ If everything's under control, you're not going fast enough!

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