Retrofitting Bi-Xenons..

Ducklakeview · Jul 28th, 2015, 09:58

Ok, so my car has std halogen headlamps, and I've read on here that the Bi-Xenons (reflector type) and also the later "eyeball" type ones are a direct retrofit, but that you get a "bulb failure" message on the dash...

So, I've sourced a O/S reflector type Bi-Xenon, and plugged it in, lights up briefly, for around a second, before shutting off and giving the "dipped beam bulb failure" message on the dash... Flicking switch off and on again (I've turned off the headlamps on the "0" setting using Vida as it was eating H7's) results in same, lamp lights and then shuts down. Now I've had the lamp off the car and put 12v direct to the ballast, and it works perfectly, so can anyone tell me why it's shutting down? Incidentally, the cheap, "can-bus" compatible HID kit that I bought, intending to fit before I decided to swap the whole lamps, works fine when plugged into the bulb connector on the original H7 headlamp, and DOESN'T give an error or shutdown....

Do I just need a load resistor??

Mike

A lex · Jul 28th, 2015, 10:09

Yes, I think you need a load resistor.

Although im sure someone will be along to confirm shortly

Tannaton · Jul 28th, 2015, 12:32

I'm not 100% certain but isn't there a setting in VIDA for halogen/HID headlamps?

Ducklakeview · Jul 28th, 2015, 12:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tannaton

I'm not 100% certain but isn't there a setting in VIDA for halogen/HID headlamps?

Ooh... I'll have to look, didn't you change yours Tannaton?

Have ordered THESE just in case...

Mike

Ducklakeview · Jul 29th, 2015, 16:19

Ok
So resistors arrived and I've installed one. . Still the same 😠

Any ideas?
Mike

A lex · Jul 29th, 2015, 16:43

Thats a shame

Maybe they need to be programmed in via VIDA.... as in the car told that they are there?

That would be a dealer or tooled up INDY only job.

Ducklakeview · Jul 29th, 2015, 16:45

I'm sure several members on here have done this without problems? ?

Just having a play with VIDA/Dice, and using the activations in the CEM, I can turn on the Bi-xenon and it stays on... Also does not bring up the error message..

Very strange..

Mike

Tannaton · Jul 29th, 2015, 19:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ducklakeview

Ooh... I'll have to look, didn't you change yours Tannaton?

Have ordered THESE just in case...

Mike

No I've still got the halogen lamps. But I do have a clear recollection of seeing "Headlamp type" in the summary information that VIDA displays when you identify the car through DICE.

Ducklakeview · Jul 29th, 2015, 19:59

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tannaton

No I've still got the halogen lamps. But I do have a clear recollection of seeing "Headlamp type" in the summary information that VIDA displays when you identify the car through DICE.

I too have seen that, but there's no apparent way of changing it

And to add to this, once I'd turned it on with VIDA/Dice, and unplugged the interface, whereupon the lamp turned off... I could then turn it on/off at will using the light switch, and NOT getting the error, until I turned off the ign...

Very strange...

I'm also not convinced that the "load resistor" will do the job, as surely putting a 6 ohm resistance between the 12v feed to the ballast and ground will do nothing if the resistance of the ballast is less than 6 ohm (with electricity taking the "route of least resistance" etc) as I calculate the resistance of the 35w ballast to be around 4 ohm... So I may try piggy backing a 21w bulb across the feed to see if that does the trick..

Mike

GJB · Jul 29th, 2015, 20:32

All I did on my 90 was to fit a bulb holder into the circuit and put a 10 watt bulb in it solved the problem.

Jul 28th, 2015, 09:58	#1
Ducklakeview 239,450 miles & counting! Last Online: Jul 2nd, 2017 22:13 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Merseyside	Retrofitting Bi-Xenons.. Ok, so my car has std halogen headlamps, and I've read on here that the Bi-Xenons (reflector type) and also the later "eyeball" type ones are a direct retrofit, but that you get a "bulb failure" message on the dash... So, I've sourced a O/S reflector type Bi-Xenon, and plugged it in, lights up briefly, for around a second, before shutting off and giving the "dipped beam bulb failure" message on the dash... Flicking switch off and on again (I've turned off the headlamps on the "0" setting using Vida as it was eating H7's) results in same, lamp lights and then shuts down. Now I've had the lamp off the car and put 12v direct to the ballast, and it works perfectly, so can anyone tell me why it's shutting down? Incidentally, the cheap, "can-bus" compatible HID kit that I bought, intending to fit before I decided to swap the whole lamps, works fine when plugged into the bulb connector on the original H7 headlamp, and DOESN'T give an error or shutdown.... Do I just need a load resistor?? Mike

Jul 28th, 2015, 10:09	#2
A lex Premier Member Last Online: Jun 21st, 2022 08:16 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Maastricht View Photos By: A lex	Yes, I think you need a load resistor. Although im sure someone will be along to confirm shortly __________________ 2007 V70 P3 2.0 Ex: 01 V70 T5, 04 S60 D5, 05 V70 D5, 09 XC90 D5 Other cars: MINI Clubman Cooper S, GMC Yukon XL Denali 6.2L, Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Supercharged 735bhp.

Jul 28th, 2015, 12:32	#3
Tannaton Bungling Amateur Last Online: Today 09:46 Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Beverley, East Yorks	I'm not 100% certain but isn't there a setting in VIDA for halogen/HID headlamps? __________________ 2011 XC90 D5 Executive 2003 C70 T5 GT 2012 Ford Ranger XL SC 1977 Triumph Spitfire 1500 1976 Massey Ferguson 135

Jul 29th, 2015, 16:43	#6
A lex Premier Member Last Online: Jun 21st, 2022 08:16 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Maastricht View Photos By: A lex	Thats a shame Maybe they need to be programmed in via VIDA.... as in the car told that they are there? That would be a dealer or tooled up INDY only job. __________________ 2007 V70 P3 2.0 Ex: 01 V70 T5, 04 S60 D5, 05 V70 D5, 09 XC90 D5 Other cars: MINI Clubman Cooper S, GMC Yukon XL Denali 6.2L, Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Supercharged 735bhp.

Jul 29th, 2015, 16:45	#7
Ducklakeview 239,450 miles & counting! Last Online: Jul 2nd, 2017 22:13 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Merseyside	I'm sure several members on here have done this without problems? ? Just having a play with VIDA/Dice, and using the activations in the CEM, I can turn on the Bi-xenon and it stays on... Also does not bring up the error message.. Very strange.. Mike Last edited by Ducklakeview; Jul 29th, 2015 at 17:07.

Jul 29th, 2015, 16:19	#5
Ducklakeview 239,450 miles & counting! Last Online: Jul 2nd, 2017 22:13 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Merseyside	Ok So resistors arrived and I've installed one. . Still the same 😠 Any ideas? Mike

Jul 29th, 2015, 20:32	#10
GJB Premier Member Last Online: Apr 22nd, 2024 15:54 Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Cromer Norfolk	Bulb in circuit All I did on my 90 was to fit a bulb holder into the circuit and put a 10 watt bulb in it solved the problem.

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