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Is this a good price? - DPF additive topup

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Old Jul 11th, 2009, 01:45   #1
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"engine service required" has been displayed for a while, and car has very recently started going into limp home mode if ECU thinks I'm over-revving.

called William A Lewis in shrewsbury, they say £30 for diagnostic check.

Car comes back with 2 permanent erorrs:

1) DPF additive tank empty
2) air sensor errors - permanent error logged on ECU

Man behind service counter said "dont worry about paying for the diagnostic"

They want £200 to refill additive tank & replacement + fit new air sensor.

Is that reasonable?
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Old Jul 11th, 2009, 10:06   #2
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£20 for diagnostic , £110 to top up and reset additive tank was what I paid.

Not sure about sensor (ie where it is and what it does) so can't comment.

Is this part of additive system?

I suspect that your add tank was not properly refilled at service and if engine has been run for a long period with regeneration of particulate filter not being carried out correctly, then you may well have a blocked filter, hence limp home mode.

If this is the case you may well need replacement DPF which is around £500.

Has the car been fully serviced by Volvo or has non franchised dealer carried out service, or that non service has been done.?
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im about to get this sorted myself. mines the 72k service which requires the replacement of the DPF. price from simon is £376 and additive is £64. ive been quoted 1 hours labour at a volvo specialist to change them and reset the computer settings
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£20 for diagnostic , £110 to top up and reset additive tank was what I paid.

Not sure about sensor (ie where it is and what it does) so can't comment.

Is this part of additive system?

I suspect that your add tank was not properly refilled at service and if engine has been run for a long period with regeneration of particulate filter not being carried out correctly, then you may well have a blocked filter, hence limp home mode.

If this is the case you may well need replacement DPF which is around £500.

Has the car been fully serviced by Volvo or has non franchised dealer carried out service, or that non service has been done.?
The DPF was replaced at 75,000 miles and the car is now touching 113,000 miles. The way I drive the car, I cant see the filter needing replacement just yet.
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im about to get this sorted myself. mines the 72k service which requires the replacement of the DPF. price from simon is £376 and additive is £64. ive been quoted 1 hours labour at a volvo specialist to change them and reset the computer settings
I still dont know why the filter would need changing. If its bloced to the point where the engine doesnt run properly at all then yes.

Surely with the additive it should just burn off the soot no problems?
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The DPF was replaced at 75,000 miles and the car is now touching 113,000 miles. The way I drive the car, I cant see the filter needing replacement just yet.
If the car has been driven for a long while (many miles) whilst the additive tank has been running empty, then regeneration of the DPF may not have been taking place properly and the filter may still have blocked. If you drive the car fairly hard, then yes it may run a bit hotter, but not hot enough to effect proper regeneration of the DPF perhaps.

Also you will be burning more fuel and creating more soot the harder you go.

The fuel additive is there to increase combustion and exhaust gas temperature, therefore guaranteeing the filter will be cleared of soot. It is added to the fuel tank when more than 20ltrs of fuel are added, which is why in my case the "engine system service" message came up on my car after refueling.

Just a thought though.
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Old Oct 6th, 2009, 13:14   #7
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I've just brought a V50 Euro IV 2.0 D 2005 (115000 miles)and when you drive it hard the power cuts out at about 4000 rpm and the msg appears. Do I need to take it to a volvo dealer to get the additive tank topped up. the last 2 services have been carried out by Nationwide Autocentre and I cannot be sure if they've topped it up.

Any advice would be appreciated.
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Well, I'd get the codes read first. If any of the engine control sensors flag an error , then car will drop in to limp mode. My car has had limp home condition from air manifold temp sensor as well as pressure differential sensor (DPF)

I think I'd ask auto centre if additive was topped up and if system was reset as this has to be done at same time to zero the count.

If they say no, then it may well be a top up required. Just hope that DPF can then regenerate properly.
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Hi,

I've just brought a V50 Euro IV 2.0 D 2005 (115000 miles)and when you drive it hard the power cuts out at about 4000 rpm and the msg appears. Do I need to take it to a volvo dealer to get the additive tank topped up. the last 2 services have been carried out by Nationwide Autocentre and I cannot be sure if they've topped it up.

Any advice would be appreciated.
have you got an additive tank and particle filter?
you can tell by the 8th character in the VIN .
3 = Euro 3 no additive no particle filter
4 = Euro 4 but with no particle filter or additive tank
5 = Euro 4 With additive and particle filter
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8th character is a 5 so it has both. It is going in to the Volvo garage in Downham Market friday morning, hopefully it wont cost me an arm and a leg.
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