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**ksmi** · Jul 15, 2019, 19:27

'Got a new motor john?'

Which part of Ireland has the car come from? Has it number plates on it still? If it's from The Republic/EU, go on line to Gov.uk NOVA Notification of Vehicle Arrivals service. you can inform HMRC. Do you know the original reg.no?
Used to be a darn site easier when there was regional offices,which our lords and masters,in there infinite wisdom ,kindly closed. Bought an Innocenti Mini hatchback,drove it back from Belgium on its original plates,went to vehicle tax office at Luton,spoke to a Human being,and left with my new uk Reg,No. Simple!!!!

Hope this helps,Keith.

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 15, 2019, 20:01

Thanks Keith, yeah, it's from the Republic, and currently on Irish vintage plates. However, I also have its original UK plates which I would like to get it reregistered on.
But now I think of it, the car is officially down as SORNed on the DVLA database according to insurance company, so now I'm wondering if I need to go through all this palaver after all. Maybe I can just send them the Irish logbook and get it unSORNed that way?

The V55/5 - which it seemed I'd need to register an imported vehicle - is officially (and confusingly IMO) called 'application for first vehicle tax and registration of a used motor vehicle' and as this won't be its first registration, theoretically shouldn't be needed. I think another call to them is in order tomorrow.

Oh and yes, have already notified HMRC - that was the surprisingly easy part...

**dingov70** · Jul 15, 2019, 20:02

I think you may have the wrong form to complete .

I regularly MOT southern Irish cars on their Irish reg No. by making a new entry for the MOT service , using the cars original logbook . for all the relevent details & NEVER been required to complete that list of compost .

DVLA then use the existing registration document along with the NEW UK MOT certificate to issue a UK reg NO. Much of the data required can be found on the V5 or southern Irish equivalent . It is also in Gaelic & Englsih to help us simple testers

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 15, 2019, 20:49

Yeah, I'm definitely beginning to think I might be on the wrong track now. Dunno why the clown I spoke to at DVLA couldn't have mentioned that. Anyway, will try again tmrw and just ask them what I need to fill in, that avenue might work best.

PS: Alan, got your msg, thx very much - can't reply until I have 30 posts apparently though. Anyway, will see what happens tmrw...

**sleek lemur** · Jul 15, 2019, 23:57

I have just re-registered a car which was originally UK, but had been exported to Germany. V55 is correct form and you are right, there are many boxes you can't complete. Don't worry about that. You've done your NOVA, yes? That's done online and gives HMRC the info they need to calculate duty. Thank goodness they delayed Brexit, eh?

My biggest confusion was that we need to register our vehicles as taxation class "Historic Vehicle" and that option is not listed on the helpsheet that comes with the V55, which tells you how much vehicle road tax you need to pay. Of course it's Zero in our case. I just filled out the V55 as best I could, put Historic Vehicle in th taxation class and Zero in the tax due box. Three weeks later I got a letter with a nice age-related reg no and confirmation that the car is taxed. I then got my number plates. Actually, shortly after, I got a form confirming to whom it may concern that I am the owner of the car and have the right to buy a number plate. Which was jolly nice of them. So, there you are. Go for it!

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 16, 2019, 12:06

Well, I have just got off the phone with DVLA and it really does show it's the luck of the draw when it comes to getting advice at their call centre...

Woman I spoke to was very helpful and knowledgable, unlike the previous bloke. And it's all so simple - yes, the V55/5 IS the form I need. And almost without being prompted, she said that any box that refers to something from the Certificate of Conformity DOES NOT need to be filled in if it's over 10 years old. Unlike what the previous bloke had told me, so I'm gonna take her word for it :)

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 16, 2019, 12:13

And here is the follow-up email I received, though it doesnt specifically say owt about the Cert of Conf:

Thank you for contacting DVLA, following our telephone conversation please find details below as discussed for your enquiry to re-import your vehicle.

On its return the vehicle must be registered with the DVLA when it arrives in the country. This must be done as the vehicle can't be used or kept on public roads until it is registered and taxed. The only circumstances in which you can drive the vehicle are to and from a pre-arranged IVA/MOT test and to and from a garage for remedial work following failure to pass the test.

You are required to notify HMRC immediately when a vehicle arrives in the UK. You can find out more at https://www.gov.uk/importing-vehicle...k/telling-hmrc.

You should apply to register the vehicle by submitting your application to:

DVLA
Swansea
SA99 1BE

You will need to submit the following documentation:

filled in application form V55/5 (for used vehicles)
fee for the vehicle tax (cheque or postal order made payable to DVLA Swansea)
the V561 certificate of export, foreign registration document or any other papers relating to the vehicle (must be original)
original current British MOT test certificate (if applicable)
valid insurance certificate or cover note for vehicles being registered to a Northern Ireland address(downloaded or faxed copies are acceptable, however photocopies are not)
photocopies of documentation confirming your name and address
Confirmation of name (one from the list below)

current DVLA paper driving licence
UK/EU or foreign passport
marriage certificate
decree nisi or absolute
birth certificate
Confirmation of address (one from the list below)

utility bill within the last 3 months e.g. gas, electricity water, landline telephone (valid within the last 3 months)
bank/building society statement ( valid within the last 3 months)
medical card
council tax bill for current year
A photocard driving licence is acceptable as proof of name and address, however, if your address has changed the photocard licence would be acceptable as proof of name only.

As you can see from the above list a Local Authority Council Tax bill is permissible for the purpose of confirming address details. However, applicants will still have to provide confirmation of name details to support V55/4 & V55/5 applications.

Proof of identity is needed to ensure that applicants cannot provide false information to make themselves untraceable. Hence the decision to include documents which enable the supplier to verify the name and address quoted on applications.

Please note that if you do not wish to tax the vehicle you may make a Statutory Off Road Notification (SORN) by sending SORN form V890 with the above documentation except the MOT Certificate.

DVLA Swansea retains the right to inspect any vehicle brought for registration.

Once a successful application has been received at the DVLA you should receive a confirmation letter within 10 working days.

A V5C Registration Certificate will be received within 4 weeks.

An information leaflet INF 106 �How to import your vehicle into Great Britain (GB)� can be downloaded at: https://www.gov.uk/government/public...ted-kingdom-uk and provides detailed advice regarding the documentation required to register an imported vehicle.

The V149 Rates of Vehicle Tax can be found at www.gov.uk/vehicle-tax-rate-tables

You are able to download all the mentioned forms or requested they are posted to you at www.gov.uk/dvlaforms

**old fart** · Jul 16, 2019, 17:11

I'm about to register a car I've imported from Sweden, and as far as I can remember from the last one I did, the questions to answer are :- 2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9 10,30,31,32,33,34,27,46,57, and fill the back in. For question 64 say it is too old.
Good luck.

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 16, 2019, 18:40

Yeah, thx OF, that pretty much tallies with what I have left over, although I did manage to fill in one or two others, mainly the weights and dimensions, track width etc, that I got from the manual.

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 16, 2019, 19:43

OK, final question (I hope). Seems obvious to me that there should be no 'first registration fee' as it was previously a U.K. car, but I don't want problems caused by loopholes or whatever...
The leaflet says the �55 fee applies to all vehicles, except historic vehicles previously registered with the old local authorities (late conversions). Not sure what the bit in brackets refers to? Or even 'old authorities' come to think of it...

Other exemption option is 'imported vehicles previously registered in U.K. under the personal export scheme and new means of transport scheme, which doesn't seem remotely relevant.
Rest of the options don't apply, being:
Those first registered as Disabled, visiting forces vehicles, crown exempt vehicles, vehicles registered under the direct export scheme or Off Road Scheme.

**old fart** · Jul 16, 2019, 22:23

If you have the original british reg you may be able to get it reinstated, otherwise just pay the �55. At least you'll be able to use it then.

**SteadyRolling** · Jul 17, 2019, 11:05

Yeah, just been on the phone to them again - it's basically a longwinded way of saying if it's previously been registered in U.K. Dunno why they have to make everything so complicated...

**Parisien** · Aug 30, 2019, 18:19

Originally posted by SteadyRolling View Post

Yeah, just been on the phone to them again - it's basically a longwinded way of saying if it's previously been registered in U.K. Dunno why they have to make everything so complicated...

Steadyrolling, have you completed the process yet, just about to start mine on Monday, collecting a V70 in Dublin, drive it up North on trade plates, inform HMRC, follow the process you outlined and information you received back from DVLA, luckily the car is 3 weeks over the 10 year old deadline for a lot of the questions listed on the form all 70 odd!!!!!!

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**SteadyRolling** · Aug 30, 2019, 21:46

Hi, yes, I got my V5, back onto the original UK plates, about two or three weeks later. Ridiculously easy when you know how... As mentioned earlier, just ignore anything that relates to Certificate of Conformity and it's simple to fill in.

Hope you have better luck than I did driving it home from Dublin though - I had a serious breakdown outside Warrington at 3 a.m. when only halfway home. Knowing what I know now, I would ship it instead - because I don't think ANY breakdown insurance will cover you for a car that isn't (yet) registered in the UK. My outfit wouldn't, and neither would the AA when I rang them (even though they will apparently usually retrospectively cover you for getting home if you take out a policy after the breakdown). Ended up costing me an arm and a leg to get it home on the back of a truck the same day...

Edit: just noticed you obviously mean Northern Ireland, not Northern England, as I'd read your reply in my email, not on the forum... In which case, I doubt it will be a problem...

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