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EYB Jan 15th, 2008 08:07

B230K engine conversion to B230FT
 
Hi

Will I encounter problems in converting a Solex Cisac B230K engine to a B230FT (turbo/intercooler/injected) engine? A totalled donor vehicle with an intact B230FT engine is willing to part with his cylinder head with pistons/con rods, exhaust manifold with turbo, oil pan with return hose, intercooler with brackets, shroud, all ductings, electrical wirings/harness, computer box, intake manifold and throttle body.

My concerns are in the electrical system (fixed crank position sensor, elctronic ignition coil, etc.) of the B230K engine. Is this project doable?

On the other hand, does a AQ-125 Volvo Penta dual intake manifold fit the head of my B230 engine and what Weber model will fit on the manifold?

dindo

Mike_Brace Jan 15th, 2008 10:21

Have a read of this:

http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=49918

This might answer your questions - if not ask again and I will try to help as I have done a similair conversion.

Mike

EYB Jan 17th, 2008 10:22

B230k To B230ft Conversion
 
Hi Mike

Thanks for the response. I just gone over the forum as you told me so, unfortunately it did not answer all my concerns. Thank God you said the project is doable.

Since I am in the Philippines and the donor vehicle/engine is in the US, being a Left Hand Drive vehicle, the concern of space between the steering column and the turbo is the least of my worries.

I think what I need now is the complete list of the parts to make this project work. Are you kind enough to email me this list? As I read thru the forums, I realize that I miss out the intank fuel pump, ignition coil, etc. that is needed for the FI.

Assuming that I have the parts complete, I think I would require schematics of the electrical system.

To summarize, if you say that this project is doable, (I also have a friend/electrician). Let me have the parts list so I can have it shipped right away.

Mike_Brace Jan 17th, 2008 13:02

As your car is left hand drive there should be no major problems on the instal. Your donor car should provide you with the complete engine and box. The turbo box is stronger assuming it is a manual box - you will need to swap the gear remote and gearbox mounting bracket. You will need the engine complete with all its sensors and wiring loom which needs removing back to ecu and just cut off wires from ecu that are not required. You will need the intercooler from the donor and you will need to replace the air filter with a sports one and relocate the washer bottle. if you need i could supply further photos of the engine bay to help you. The mechanical side of things is fairly straightforward and if you have any querties these should be easily answered. With regards electrics though we used the Volvo factory Green Book service manuals for both the donor and recipient cars and worked out where and how to connect in the new loom. Fortunately the colours of the wires are pretty standard between the two which makes it easier. It was a few years ago that I'd did this and carefully connected and loomed it all up tidily so it would be difficult for me to say what we did and where. It would have been nearly impossible without the Green Books.

Mike

EYB Jan 18th, 2008 01:52

B230K to B230FT CONVERSION
 
Hi Mike

thanks for the reply. i just need some clarifications. what do you mean by I the "box", "turbo box", "gear remote", "gearbox mounting bracket". Are you refering to the transmission? Is this part somewhat bulky? By the way, my B230K has an AT.

Where can I source the Volvo green book service manuals for both K and FT models? Should you have these both, would it be very inconvenient on your part to request a scanned/emailed copy?

I agree that the mechanical side would be very straight forward, what is critical is the electrical aspect. And yes, I must agree, photos will do help a lot.

dindo

Glen Morangie Jan 18th, 2008 06:54

Quote:

Originally Posted by EYB (Post 353170)
Hi Mike

Where can I source the Volvo green book service manuals for both K and FT models? Should you have these both, would it be very inconvenient on your part to request a scanned/emailed copy?

dindo

The manuals are published in sections - Engine B230K, B230F, Fuel Injection, Wiring, some running to 300ish pages. It's not really the sort of thing someone could scan when they have a few minutes to spare.

Although Mike's a nice bloke - you never know.

EYB Jan 18th, 2008 08:43

B230K to B230FT conversion
 
Hi Glen

Can you advise me where I can buy these manuals?

Glen Morangie Jan 18th, 2008 16:30

Quote:

Originally Posted by EYB (Post 353203)
Hi Glen

Can you advise me where I can buy these manuals?


https://volvotechinfo.com/index.cfm


Although I'm getting a security certificate error on that site, so be careful if you are trying to order online - maybe contact Volvo USA to check.

Mike_Brace Jan 18th, 2008 17:57

In the manual for the 740 turbo there are only a few pages relevant to the engine wiring. The manual is for a 1985 and there may possibly be slight variations for different years. As this is a carburetor car all wiring will basically be needed from scratch using the circuits as shown on the 740 diagram.
With the fuel pumps you would be best off getting these from a 240 with mechanical injection (better fuel pumps) as well as fuel lines (high pressure + return) and as the wiring for them is already in place in the vehicle (I should have wiring diagram for the mechanical injection as well)
If you are wanting these scanned I can probably mange this for you but will find the books and see if my daughter has time to scan them. Will see what I can do.
One other issue - the automatic transmission should take power ok but you will need to sort out about a flywheel for the auto unless the donor car is an auto which will be the easiest way. With the autobox however it will only take standard power. You will not be able to up the boost pressure, chip the ecu with this set up.

Mike

EYB Jan 19th, 2008 02:13

B230K to B230FT conversion
 
Thanks Glen, you are right, there is a security certificate error. I just don't want to take the risk. Do you have other options regarding its source?


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