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gatos Aug 18th, 2011 20:28

How to replace the Front Seat Belt
 
This is a guide of how to replace the drivers seat belt. This is only a guide and I would advice caution when attempting to follow my instructions, as there is a pyrotechnic device at the bottom part of the seatbelt mechanism which is meant to be activated in case of an accident.

Even though we will not be disconnecting any of the SRS cables, I would strongly advice disconnecting the battery and waiting for at least 20 minutes before you start. Also make sure that you have the Stereo security code handy before you disconnect the battery.

First thing to do is to undo the two screws on the drivers trim and lift it up carefully.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/001.jpg


Also remove the rear passengers door trim

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/002.jpg


You need to remove this plastic trim. Easy to take out. There is one clip on the top right hand side of it which releases very easily. See also next photo. Do not remove the screw hoplding the seatbelt yet. We will do so later on.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/003.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/004.jpg


Remove the lower plastic trim first. release the lower part first and then wiggle it out.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/005.jpg


Undo a bit of the inner door seals on both the drivers and rear passengers door frames (see photo). Be a bit careful with the top grey plastic trim. If you just pull it, you may break the plastic clip holding it. The way to remove it is to push gently the lower part towards the front of the car (see arrow) and it will come of the clip. Then move it slightly downwards and take it out. check the next two photos and you will see what I mean

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/006.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/007.jpg


Remove the metal clip from the car frame and put it back in its place on the upper grey trim. You will need to push the two ends of the clip so it is released from the frame

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/008.jpg


And now the fun bit. You can either remove the whole unit and take it indoors and change the seatbelt, or follow my instructions below. I found this to be easier and faster. Pull out the seatbelt all the way out. When doing so, try to have the part highlighted in the green circle (oval) facing the way I have it on the photo. You will have to pul out the seatbelt from there. The spring mechanism needs to be secured to this position. To do so, I used some electrical tape. I used 3 bits and the mechanism was not moving any more. Use you common sense when doing so and be careful the tape comes undone. If this happens, you will have to rewind the whole rotating mechanism and you will not know how far to go. So whatever you do, make sure you secure it properly. See also next photo of how I secured it.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/009.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/010.jpg


Once secured, pull out the seatbelt and slide off the pin which is securing it on the rotating spring mechanism. See also next photo

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/011.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/012.jpg


Before you pull out the seatbelt, feed the new seatbelt though the upper plastic trim and have it ready to be fitted to the rotating mechanism.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/013.jpg


Pull out the old seatbelt and immediately feed the new one through the gap and secure it with the pin. In order to feed the new seatbelt in, you will have to rotate the spring mechanism about 90 degrees. If you have taped the mechanism the same way I did, it should be able to move in one direction only.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/014.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/015.jpg

Undo the bolt (size 14 socket), remove the old seatbelt and put the new one in.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/016.jpg

Job done. Well you need to put everything back together in the reverse order.

Good luck and if you have any questions, suggestions or better ways to do things, please feel free to comment

stevo48 Aug 18th, 2011 21:19

That is a cracking "how to" guide and it is going to make changing my seatbelt so much easier, thank you.

The Improver Aug 18th, 2011 21:35

Great set of photos there, accompanied by a good script!

I've a couple of questions if I may... have you used a new seat belt for replacement and if so how much did it cost.

I was all waiting from the very beginning of reading that, to expect a piece of red plastic which is hidden behind the plastic cover used to wedge the bottom seat attachment, for something which acts as a safety device. I wonder if it's only for use on different phase models... think I ought to be searching :) Done a bit of searching and it would appear to be the older phases had a mechanical SIPS system.

gatos Aug 18th, 2011 23:52

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Originally Posted by The Improver (Post 968382)
Great set of photos there, accompanied by a good script!

I've a couple of questions if I may... have you used a new seat belt for replacement and if so how much did it cost.

I was all waiting from the very beginning of reading that, to expect a piece of red plastic which is hidden behind the plastic cover used to wedge the bottom seat attachment, for something which acts as a safety device. I wonder if it's only for use on different phase models... think I ought to be searching :) Done a bit of searching and it would appear to be the older phases had a mechanical SIPS system.

Not sure how the P1 bit looks like i am afraid

I had two spare seatbelts from the car I am breaking. One went to stevo48 and one in my car as my drivers belt was not in the best condition. I was hoping that the rear seatbelts would work too, but they are a bit longer and they have a slightly different lower adaptor on the bottom. I may have one more seatbelt from last year, but I am not sure where it is. If I find it I will pm you. I will post some photos and info tomorrow about the length of the belt and and the shape of the lower metal bit

The Improver Aug 19th, 2011 10:24

Gatos many thanks for your answers my V40 is a Phase 2, so there aint no RED bit... we're electric. The thread I'd seen the RED bit in was DWM's Retro fitting heated seats and he'd done it on a 97' Phase 1.

I was just trying to prepare myself for future cost of new front belts... I think new ones might take a deep breath before ordering!

It's a shame Volvo didn't design the door pillar covers with a bit more thought... I assume its the sawing action of the belt thro' the plastic that causes the problem, isn't it.

gatos Aug 19th, 2011 10:46

Yes that seems to be the most probable cause. I remember seeing a guide somewhere of how to fit a U shaped metallic sleeve, that would stop both belt and cover getting damaged. Will search around to try to find it

Edited: Found it. 4 forty is the one who did it. Will pm him for photo and how too....

Thread is here:
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=9186


Also thanks to Andy_d for pointing out to me the torque settings for the seatbelt bolts. They should be both tightened to 48Nm / 35 foot pounds

stevo48 Aug 21st, 2011 17:39

Fantastic "how to" guide, had my new seatbelt fitted in under thirty minutes, many thanks gatos :thumbs_up:

gatos Aug 21st, 2011 18:27

Glad I could help... :)

liberate Oct 11th, 2011 12:50

Cheers mate, it worked a treat and I didn't break a thing.

smashey Nov 7th, 2011 17:34

I'm over in Ireland and have the same issue with the belt fraying from the trim aperture.

I see a fair number of used passenger side belts on the internet but second hand Drivers side ones are much rarer. Can I use just the belt from one of these near side units as a replacement on the drivers side???

docjd Nov 7th, 2011 18:14

Great guide -many thanks:thumbs_up:

piyushkothari Apr 5th, 2012 11:05

thanks this is a wonderful guide, i guess this will help many of us

rexer12 Apr 30th, 2012 16:37

Grate guide gatos as always :thumbs_up:

Volvoline Apr 30th, 2012 18:06

This is awesome. I'll have to do that one day.
This should all be organized on the guides forum !

Gatos I really appreciate these. It's because of those things that I keep my S40.

gatos Apr 30th, 2012 20:09

Best part is that you can get a passengers seatbelt, which is cheaper and easier to get hold of, and use the belt to swap it with the driver's one. Rear seat belts will not do the trick, as they are about 1 &1/2 foot longer and the metal bit that is bolted to the side of the seat is angled.

Volvo2002 Apr 30th, 2012 21:46

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Originally Posted by gatos (Post 1153024)
Best part is that you can get a passengers seatbelt, which is cheaper and easier to get hold of, and use the belt to swap it with the driver's one. Rear seat belts will not do the trick, as they are about 1 &1/2 foot longer and the metal bit that is bolted to the side of the seat is angled.

Seeing this topic reminds me of my search for a beige seatbelt lol.. Phoning up the dealer to find they had the right colour was nice until they dropped a huge 190 quid asking price on top... thanks to yourself though Pinhead had one for a much cheaper 8 quid lol

rexer12 May 1st, 2012 01:29

yes my seat belt is frayed, so at least i can do the job myself now after seeing this thread once i get a replacement belt.

gatos Jan 1st, 2013 12:17

You need to remove this plastic trim. Easy to take out. There is one clip on the top right hand side of it which releases very easily. See also next photo. Do not remove the screw hoplding the seatbelt yet. We will do so later on.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/003.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/004.jpg


Undo the bolt (size 14 socket), remove the old seatbelt and put the new one in.

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/016.jpg

gatos Jan 1st, 2013 12:18

oops..... wrong post:(

Lou Ferrigno Jan 8th, 2013 15:09

Locked Seat Belt
 
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I read this guide and thought very interesting should I ever need it.
The next day, I parked at an angle in a public car park, my seatbelt locked and has not budged since.
As it fits me, it is presumably safe to drive the car but it reminds me of when seat belts were static.
I have lost the luxury of inertia reel.

My car I believe is a phase 1.5, it is a 99 model and is definitely "cross over", in many ways.

I have attached 2 photos which show the pre tensioner with the lower cover panel removed.

And my question !
Is the seat belt a phase 1 or a phase 2 ?
Do any of you knowledgeable people have an easy way to tell please ?

gatos Jan 8th, 2013 15:16

Both P1 and P2 seatbelt mechanisms are interchangeable. I tested a P1 seatbelt mechanism on a P2 and vice versa and everything seemed to be working fine. No SRS light came on.

The only one thing that looked different was .......................... the colour of this small part. See the photo below
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...atbelt/009.jpg

Above the green highlighted oval, you can see a blue plastic part. On the Phase 2 cars it is blue and on the Phase 1 cars it is black. As I said before both P1 and P2 seatbels are interchangeable.

The only thing to look out for is the buckle. On the late 2003-2004 model, the buckle on them has 2 smaller rectanguler holes instead of the 1 larger rectangular one on the earlier models. Hope this helps

See photos below:
http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/DSCF1761.jpg

http://i157.photobucket.com/albums/t...y/DSCF4203.jpg

Lou Ferrigno Jan 8th, 2013 17:50

Thank you Gatos for being so very helpful. I really do appreciate it as I am sure we all do on the forum.
I have just removed the top trim and the item is coloured black so presumably phase 1. Also the buckle has the one square hole.
2 more photos attached.
Actually, with the trim detached, I can make the belt coil back up, but then it is a real pain to pull back out. Just taken me half an hour.
So, the belt is now adjusted perfectly for me again and a strong clip attached on it to keep the setting.

To remove, presumably 1 large bolt at top, 1 bolt below and then a domed bolt which holds the pyro cylinder. I think all torx fittings.

I need a working phase 1 or early phase 2 drivers seat belt. Preferably not frayed although I could swap it with my webbing.

Can anyone help please ?

Lou Ferrigno Jan 8th, 2013 17:52

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Sorry, forgot the photos in the above message

gatos Jan 8th, 2013 18:04

It is Phase 1 one. I think Jabe should still have one left. Try PMing him and see if he does. Or, alternatively, I have one where the pyrotechnic has gone off. The winding mechanism is working fine though. If you want to mess around with it, just let me know and you can have it for free. Just pay the postage

Lou Ferrigno Jan 8th, 2013 20:28

Thanks for the offer and the advice Gatos but would rather not mess with the pyro asembly. I have sent a pm to Jabe.

Lou Ferrigno Jan 13th, 2013 18:41

Just for interest, I managed to get a phase 2 unit with the blue coloured top.
Removed my phase 1 type with the black coloured top and installed the new unit.
All works perfectly and the check lights all go off as before.
What a pleasure to have the inertia reel effect back.

Dagenham Dave Sep 11th, 2013 20:12

Seat belt Buckles
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by gatos (Post 1324817)
Both P1 and P2 seatbelt mechanisms are interchangeable.

The only thing to look out for is the buckle. On the late 2003-2004 model, the buckle on them has 2 smaller rectangular holes instead of the 1 larger rectangular one on the earlier models. Hope this helps

My S40 2002 has had a seat belt changed by a Volvo dealer sometime ago, long before I found it! the "new" belt has frayed and is now an advisory.

The original belts had the 1 hole type buckle

The "new" belt is the 2 hole type

The good news is that both types fit the early (one hole) stalk. (my NSF belt is one hole and OSF belt is two hole) both fit in either seat stalk and the stalks appear to be original - 1 hole.

Other things I have learnt - the "dealers" fix for frayed seat belts is to trim off the frayed material then singe with a lighter. Remove the belt and turn it over so the other edge of the belt wears. Not sure if its an approved method but there it is.

cookie Sep 12th, 2013 10:55

I have broken 2 V40's and had 3, non have had frayed seat belts, but all have been owned by people about 6' tall, looking at design and the way the belt rolls up, if someone shorter drives car, the belt is dragged against the bottom of the trim, and when it recoils doesn't recoil neatly, but coils over part of the lower section of the mechanism, so next time it pulls out, it just rubs more, regardless of size of person

out of interest (but never photographed it or anything) did my non scientific experiment with trim removed, with me sitting in drivers seat, and putting on and off seat belt, and my son, doing the same, the way the belt recoiled with son sitting in car, would have meant it would have heavily dragged on trim recoiling , and when next pulled out, when I sat there, I'm 6' tall, belt recoiled neatly.

Just as another thing worth noting, don't try and uncoil a replacement seat belt, or check mechanism works, until it is fitted in car, as it only works at angle its designed to sit in car, +/- a very few degrees, which is why even when parked on a steep hill, or trying to put on belt whilst moving, they sometimes keep locking.

pds Oct 10th, 2013 20:50

Great guide, this will be helpful :)

The driver's seat belt in my S40 got stuck, not going in or out. I am looking for used ones on ebay(uk), but I am afraid it wont fit, since I am in Portugal(LHD) and the ones that I find in ebay are obviously from RHD cars.

Does a passenger seat belt from a RHD car fit on the driver side of LHD car?

gatos Oct 11th, 2013 12:26

Quote:

Originally Posted by pds (Post 1498022)
Great guide, this will be helpful :)

The driver's seat belt in my S40 got stuck, not going in or out. I am looking for used ones on ebay(uk), but I am afraid it wont fit, since I am in Portugal(LHD) and the ones that I find in ebay are obviously from RHD cars.

Does a passenger seat belt from a RHD car fit on the driver side of LHD car?

Yes, you are right a passenger seatbelt from a RHD car will be identical to the driver's seatbelt on a LHD car.

cookie Oct 11th, 2013 13:05

only thing to remember to about buying UK, is that postage is at buyers risk, as officially banned from going in normal courier services (although people do obviously)

gatos Oct 11th, 2013 13:25

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Originally Posted by cookie (Post 1498313)
only thing to remember to about buying UK, is that postage is at buyers risk, as officially banned from going in normal courier services (although people do obviously)

You can actually remove the explosive charge component and send it normally. Did this when I sent a seatbelt to another forum member in Australia...:)

pds Oct 11th, 2013 13:55

That's good to know. Thanks!

gatos Oct 11th, 2013 14:07

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Originally Posted by pds (Post 1498347)
That's good to know. Thanks!

If no one on ebay is offering to post it to Portugal, let me know as I have two spares ones.

pds Oct 13th, 2013 21:39

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatos (Post 1498352)
If no one on ebay is offering to post it to Portugal, let me know as I have two spares ones.

Just to thank gatos for all the help he is providing me with fixing my seat belt :)

gatos Oct 13th, 2013 22:10

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Originally Posted by pds (Post 1499626)
Just to thank gatos for all the help he is providing me with fixing my seat belt :)

Not a problem at all.:). Will be posting it to you tomorrow at lunchtime and post the photos here so everyone else can see too

pds Oct 14th, 2013 20:27

Great!
I'll be anxiously waiting for it :)

gatos Oct 14th, 2013 22:03

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Originally Posted by pds (Post 1500167)
Great!
I'll be anxiously waiting for it :)

Seatbelt sent out today.... Let me know when you get it.

Here are the photos as promised.

pds Oct 15th, 2013 14:37

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Originally Posted by gatos (Post 1500252)
Seatbelt sent out today.... Let me know when you get it.

Will do!

johng1952 Jan 26th, 2014 21:20

Advice please re replacing seat belt and mechanism on v40 51
 
Any help would be much appreciated! MOT due and have replacement mechanism but worried I may cause myself even more problems. Warning light on also and have replaced module with new but no means of clearing! This has been a brilliant car too - had it since 2007 with no problems.


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