Speaking of fuel economy - Page 2

Orca2 · Nov 14th, 2013, 23:22

When you bear in mind that the taxes and duty payable on fuel make up the bulk of the cost it becomes clear that the government are using fuel and energy suppliers as unpaid tax collectors. These taxes are highly regressive and almost completely unavoidable. If you are prepared to sit in the dark with no heating and get rid of your car you could avoid them but otherwise you are caught. It is even illegal to run your diesel on old cooking oil if you have not paid fuel duty on it.

tt82 · Nov 15th, 2013, 16:15

I have no issues with taxing fuel to stop people using it and as a good revenue source....

.... providing that there is a decent alternative in place! Electric cars are crap! So is public transport! I have no option but to use for my car for work. I get a bit of expenses towards my cost but I still spend a few hundred pound per month on fuel.

Will M · Nov 17th, 2013, 09:08

Maybe if the US government stuck another dollar on a gallon of fuel it might help bring down their huge debt.

A lex · Nov 17th, 2013, 13:20

Netherlands here.

Average price for the country (Non highway prices) per litre:

95 RON: €1.75 = £1.46 = $2.36 = $8.92 per US gallon

98 RON: €1.82 = £1.52 = $2.46 = $9.30 per US gallon

Diesel: €1.44 = £1.21 = $1.94 = $7.33 per US gallon

The real killer here is the VED (road tax). My XC90 D5 is just under €2,500 per year ($3,375) per year to tax for use on the road.

Insurance is close to €1,400 per year too. So thats near enough €4,000 per year ($5,400) before I even drive it!

Imagine that in the USA - there would be riots!

Nov 15th, 2013, 16:15	#12
tt82 Forum Support Team Last Online: Jun 7th, 2024 07:24 Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: Here.... obviously!	I have no issues with taxing fuel to stop people using it and as a good revenue source.... .... providing that there is a decent alternative in place! Electric cars are crap! So is public transport! I have no option but to use for my car for work. I get a bit of expenses towards my cost but I still spend a few hundred pound per month on fuel. __________________ The more people I meet, the more I like my dog! 2009 V70 D5 R-Design - Jeade'en

Nov 17th, 2013, 13:20	#14
A lex Premier Member Last Online: Jun 21st, 2022 08:16 Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Maastricht View Photos By: A lex	Netherlands here. Average price for the country (Non highway prices) per litre: 95 RON: €1.75 = £1.46 = $2.36 = $8.92 per US gallon 98 RON: €1.82 = £1.52 = $2.46 = $9.30 per US gallon Diesel: €1.44 = £1.21 = $1.94 = $7.33 per US gallon The real killer here is the VED (road tax). My XC90 D5 is just under €2,500 per year ($3,375) per year to tax for use on the road. Insurance is close to €1,400 per year too. So thats near enough €4,000 per year ($5,400) before I even drive it! Imagine that in the USA - there would be riots! __________________ 2007 V70 P3 2.0 Ex: 01 V70 T5, 04 S60 D5, 05 V70 D5, 09 XC90 D5 Other cars: MINI Clubman Cooper S, GMC Yukon XL Denali 6.2L, Ford Mustang GT 5.0 Supercharged 735bhp.

Nov 14th, 2013, 23:22	#11
Orca2 I've Been Banned Last Online: Mar 24th, 2020 22:42 Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Glasgow	When you bear in mind that the taxes and duty payable on fuel make up the bulk of the cost it becomes clear that the government are using fuel and energy suppliers as unpaid tax collectors. These taxes are highly regressive and almost completely unavoidable. If you are prepared to sit in the dark with no heating and get rid of your car you could avoid them but otherwise you are caught. It is even illegal to run your diesel on old cooking oil if you have not paid fuel duty on it.

Nov 17th, 2013, 09:08	#13
Will M Premier Member Last Online: Jan 11th, 2020 11:54 Join Date: Jul 2012 Location: Not living on that bloody rock anymore	Maybe if the US government stuck another dollar on a gallon of fuel it might help bring down their huge debt.

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