Volvo 262c Bertone - Page 2

dan 244 · Nov 16th, 2009, 23:58

Once broken, will the parts amount to more than 1000 then! I would have thought the seats and door cards might make 150, the wheels 75 - 100, the engine and gearbox 150 - 200, then you are down to oddits of trim etc 0-20 each. Genuine question is it worth more broken or a a whole? Looking at the S reg 244 that is being broken on ebay, bits dont even seem to be selling, and that is low millage and mint looking.

Rich 264 · Nov 17th, 2009, 00:08

Why not post the car and the sellers info in the for sale section, then if anyone is willing to take it on they can make him/her an offer?

They are so rare now it would be nice to see someone have the bottle to restore it rather than break it. I'm getting close finishing restoring mine, ok it's taken nearly 6 years but then I don't have a garage to work in and I don't have much spare time. It's been a case of welding in between the showers when I can find a spare hour.

I think most "sensible" people would have looked at mine when I had it and said don't bother, but although 3 out of 4 pillars had huge gaping holes in them, the "safety cell" structures were still solid as a rock and meant the car was structurally very solid.

The biggest potential expense is finding parts for the V6 engine, and people who are willing to work on them. So my V6 is mothballed until I win the lottery and a B23E with a weber DGV and an M46 box has taken its place for now. Maybe I should rename it a 242C GLT?

As you are only offering lights/trim/interior one suspects the car is going on the banger track?

Rich 264 · Nov 17th, 2009, 00:16

Forgot to mention, a mate at work whose son races has told me that 3 x 262's have been raced this year that he knows about. Given that Kens research is nearly 3 years old, and 240's have been raced mercilessly since Bluebirds and Granadas have dried up I wonder how many are actually left...

Could be worth updating the records? Or would it be too scary!

dan 244 · Nov 17th, 2009, 00:22

I would be very interested in an updated list.

TheCaptain! · Nov 18th, 2009, 08:28

Well once I been to inspect it on Saturday I shall post some pictures up to get your verdict to sell it or break it. My mate is only offering it to me to strip it and race it but if its too good to race then it shall be for sale. Yes I am one of those dreaded Banger Racers but would rather see the good condition cars be saved. I own several classics on the road and have provided many an owners club with spares to keep there cars going on the roads so before you shoot me down Ive probally saved more classics than I have raced! I can only recall 2 being raced last year.

TheCaptain! · Nov 23rd, 2009, 18:36

Well here she is!

Rich 264 · Nov 24th, 2009, 01:05

Looks a lot better than mine did when I first picked it up!
Clean the green fungus off, a project always looks a lot better when you do that.

The outer skin & seam of the rear pillar, (below the crown badge) is the usual rot spot, and this one looks good! Usually the vinyl is full of lumps where the rust is bubbling underneath, mine was through on both rears, rare to see an unrestored 262 with such tidy rear pillars.

I'm assuming the tape is on the front pillar because that has rusted through? That was one of the more nerve wracking bits of my restoration, wasn't that difficult in the end, just time consuming to get the cardboard template as good as I could before repeating the process getting the steel shaped and trimmed as close to perfection as my limited tools and experience would allow.

Wheelarches look good too.

Has it still got paperwork?

john h · Nov 24th, 2009, 20:59

Looks savable.

Another plus is the number plate; that would have a value on transfer if the car was restored & MOT'd

John

TheCaptain! · Nov 25th, 2009, 09:45

Quote:

Originally Posted by john h

Looks savable.

Another plus is the number plate; that would have a value on transfer if the car was restored & MOT'd

John

The number plates on a retention. Yes the tape is due to it being rotten its the same on both front pillars, the whole rear panel has rotted away to the bumper. Managed to get the engine running aswell! the chassis rails are rotten and the D/S sills are gone too. Not too sure on paperwork atm but I will ask when I see him next. I havent really got the time, space, tools or money to restore it.

LankyTim · Nov 25th, 2009, 21:04

I wouldnt worry too much about all these 262's being raced. The vast majority of them have been derelict for years and so do not appear on the radar when counting the remaining 262s in the U.K. They are invariably all rotters and fit only for scrap....

Its a similar situation with cars like Austin 3 litres. Theres meant to be something like 20 left in existance but theres been about 6 raced every year for the last 20 years. The ones that get raced are the ones that have been left in fields and were effectively "scrapped" years ago.

Nov 24th, 2009, 20:59	#18
john h VOC Member Last Online: May 30th, 2024 11:13 Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Huddersfield View Photos By: john h	Looks savable. Another plus is the number plate; that would have a value on transfer if the car was restored & MOT'd John __________________ XX

Nov 25th, 2009, 21:04	#20
LankyTim Missing the point Last Online: May 1st, 2024 18:59 Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Stoke-On-Trent View Photos By: LankyTim	I wouldnt worry too much about all these 262's being raced. The vast majority of them have been derelict for years and so do not appear on the radar when counting the remaining 262s in the U.K. They are invariably all rotters and fit only for scrap.... Its a similar situation with cars like Austin 3 litres. Theres meant to be something like 20 left in existance but theres been about 6 raced every year for the last 20 years. The ones that get raced are the ones that have been left in fields and were effectively "scrapped" years ago. __________________ Tim 1968 Volvo 145 long term project. Currently without a Volvo daily driver.

Nov 16th, 2009, 23:58	#11
dan 244 Master Member Last Online: May 29th, 2024 22:37 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norwich	Once broken, will the parts amount to more than 1000 then! I would have thought the seats and door cards might make 150, the wheels 75 - 100, the engine and gearbox 150 - 200, then you are down to oddits of trim etc 0-20 each. Genuine question is it worth more broken or a a whole? Looking at the S reg 244 that is being broken on ebay, bits dont even seem to be selling, and that is low millage and mint looking.

Nov 17th, 2009, 00:08	#12
Rich 264 Pinball Wizard Last Online: Feb 6th, 2013 00:53 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: cheshire	Why not post the car and the sellers info in the for sale section, then if anyone is willing to take it on they can make him/her an offer? They are so rare now it would be nice to see someone have the bottle to restore it rather than break it. I'm getting close finishing restoring mine, ok it's taken nearly 6 years but then I don't have a garage to work in and I don't have much spare time. It's been a case of welding in between the showers when I can find a spare hour. I think most "sensible" people would have looked at mine when I had it and said don't bother, but although 3 out of 4 pillars had huge gaping holes in them, the "safety cell" structures were still solid as a rock and meant the car was structurally very solid. The biggest potential expense is finding parts for the V6 engine, and people who are willing to work on them. So my V6 is mothballed until I win the lottery and a B23E with a weber DGV and an M46 box has taken its place for now. Maybe I should rename it a 242C GLT? As you are only offering lights/trim/interior one suspects the car is going on the banger track?

Nov 17th, 2009, 00:16	#13
Rich 264 Pinball Wizard Last Online: Feb 6th, 2013 00:53 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: cheshire	Forgot to mention, a mate at work whose son races has told me that 3 x 262's have been raced this year that he knows about. Given that Kens research is nearly 3 years old, and 240's have been raced mercilessly since Bluebirds and Granadas have dried up I wonder how many are actually left... Could be worth updating the records? Or would it be too scary!

Nov 17th, 2009, 00:22	#14
dan 244 Master Member Last Online: May 29th, 2024 22:37 Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Norwich	I would be very interested in an updated list.

Nov 18th, 2009, 08:28	#15
TheCaptain! New Member Last Online: Jan 15th, 2010 19:47 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Peterborough	Well once I been to inspect it on Saturday I shall post some pictures up to get your verdict to sell it or break it. My mate is only offering it to me to strip it and race it but if its too good to race then it shall be for sale. Yes I am one of those dreaded Banger Racers but would rather see the good condition cars be saved. I own several classics on the road and have provided many an owners club with spares to keep there cars going on the roads so before you shoot me down Ive probally saved more classics than I have raced! I can only recall 2 being raced last year.

Nov 23rd, 2009, 18:36	#16
TheCaptain! New Member Last Online: Jan 15th, 2010 19:47 Join Date: Nov 2009 Location: Peterborough	Well here she is!

Nov 24th, 2009, 01:05	#17
Rich 264 Pinball Wizard Last Online: Feb 6th, 2013 00:53 Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: cheshire	Looks a lot better than mine did when I first picked it up! Clean the green fungus off, a project always looks a lot better when you do that. The outer skin & seam of the rear pillar, (below the crown badge) is the usual rot spot, and this one looks good! Usually the vinyl is full of lumps where the rust is bubbling underneath, mine was through on both rears, rare to see an unrestored 262 with such tidy rear pillars. I'm assuming the tape is on the front pillar because that has rusted through? That was one of the more nerve wracking bits of my restoration, wasn't that difficult in the end, just time consuming to get the cardboard template as good as I could before repeating the process getting the steel shaped and trimmed as close to perfection as my limited tools and experience would allow. Wheelarches look good too. Has it still got paperwork?

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