For sale: Volvo 2.4d\d5 timing belt additional protection

[Element888]

Here we have for sale additional protection\cover for VOLVO 2.4D and D5 engines

Why do I need one?
Additional cover will protect your engine from expensive repairs or write-off due to aux belt\air-con belt snapping and wrapping around timing belt and damaging engine.
Some Discussions here:
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=189326 http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=80119
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=154476 http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=170141
http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=208165 http://www.volvoforums.org.uk/showthread.php?t=188297

Does my engine needs one?
Cars with 2.4D and D5 engines till year 2012 would benefit from this. After model year 2012 timing belt cover design has changed and there is no need for extra protection.

Which cars\engines will it fit?
S80, V70, XC60, XC70 with 2.4D and D5 engines 2007-2012 (???)
See post - How to check if it will fit my engine?
S60 D5244T10
XC60 2009 D5244T4
XC70 2008 D5244T4

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WILL NOT FIT:
XC60 2014 D5244T12
XC70 xxxx D5244T15
XC60 2013 D5244T17
XC70 2012 D5244T17
Engine Code - D5244T17
XC90

WHAT WILL BE INCLUDED?
1 x Timing Belt protection
2 x M10 bolts
1 x M7 bolt
1 x cable tie
See pictures here:


HOW MUCH WILL IT BE ?

GBP 55 inc. tracked delivery. Bit expensive due to this item is not manafactured, but hand made by one person, which lives abroad (postage costs).

HOW CAN I GET ONE, WHERE DO I PAY?
Payments via Paypal, Contact me via PM for details

HOW DO I FIT THIS?

Quick update: Appologies, but this should be added to first post earlier on.
To be able to tell if this protection guard/kit will fit your D5, you will need to jack up your car, take wheel and plastic inner arch off and look for following:
There have to be 2 bolt holes into your engine block on left from you and 1 smaller bolt on right hand side, which holds timing belt cover.
If you can't see 2 holes on left hand side of your engine block -IT WILL NOT FIT.
See pictures:

[Dancake]

What's it made from? Have you done any research to prove that it works? Aux belts can be quite violent when they snap.

[Element888]

What's it made from? Have you done any research to prove that it works? Aux belts can be quite violent when they snap.

Made of metal. It works. Fitted to my D5.

[Dancake]

My poverty spec Bergen spanners are made of metal, as are my Snap On spanners. They both work, but I wouldn't even think of putting pressure on the Bergen spanners. It would have to be very good quality metal, otherwise the part you are selling could ironically become the part that actually takes the timing belt out.

[Element888]

My poverty spec Bergen spanners are made of metal, as are my Snap On spanners. They both work, but I wouldn't even think of putting pressure on the Bergen spanners. It would have to be very good quality metal, otherwise the part you are selling could ironically become the part that actually takes the timing belt out.

There is no way this could happen. I think you don't understand how it works. I will post more pictures and instructions how to do this, so it's better to understand. I am not pushing people to purchase anything - at the end of day it's your car and choice.
So far it's been fitted to many cars, some been using this addon for 3+ years and there is reason why it's been invented.

[flipper234]

Count me in

Can you add me to your list, thanks very much Cheers Roy:thumbs_up:

[Dancake]

I understand the theory of how it's supposed to work, but you haven't provided any evidence that it does what you say it does. Do you have any proof that it has successfully prevented an aux belt from taking out a timing belt on a D5? I'm not having a dig at you here. I'm trying to acertain whether this is a theoretical idea that is still unproven, or a legitimate fully functional and approved method for timing belt protection.

[Clan]

I understand the theory of how it's supposed to work, but you haven't provided any evidence that it does what you say it does. Do you have any proof that it has successfully prevented an aux belt from taking out a timing belt on a D5? I'm not having a dig at you here. I'm trying to acertain whether this is a theoretical idea that is still unproven, or a legitimate fully functional and approved method for timing belt protection.

I was thinking that too , if you are taking good money from people it really does need to be proved , When the aux belt does snap the damage is all over in 1/2 second and there are massive forces involved , enough to rip off the cam belt tensioner from the block rendering the block scrap . this bracket could easily be ripped straight off .

The definitive answer is to change the belts and idlers ...

[Element888]

Would people be patient and I will post more info on this, as atm I can not edit my posts for some reason. And this is not any money making scheme. I do not make any money on this, apart from beer money for my effort and time I spend. Nor do I produce or make them. This is here to help forum members. I been there and know how it feels. Sadly this is where it goes atm - slagging me off :(
I had a bad feeling I should not do this, but here we go...
Atm it looks to me this will be first and last 5 pieces of kit I will provide.
If you think GBP 55 is too much comparing to new engine or head, that's the way it be then...

[Dancake]

Nobody is slagging you off. In theory it's a great idea, but changing your belts and tensioners when they're due is the best way to ensure that the aux belt doesn't snap and take out the timing belt.. £55 for a small piece of metal and a couple of screws is expensive, but if it was proven that it will definitely prevent the timing belt from getting taken out by a snapped aux belt, it would possibly be a good investment.

[RM955I]

I look at it this way:

1)I will (and do) keep on top of the maintenance in terms of belts and pulleys - I don't think anyone is suggesting that the guard is a substitute for that.

2)I regularly listen inside the engine bay for any for any obvious squeaks or grumbles as an early warning.

3)It is (reasonably widely) reported that the aux belt, if it lets go, will most likely take out the entire engine

4)£55 is not even a tank of juice these days

5) Can it do any harm? I think that working on the basis that if your aux belt lets go, you're most likely screwed anyhow, what's the worst that can happen?

In an ideal world, Volvo would recognise that the level of protection offered by the standard guard has been shown to be insufficient in the event of the aux belt letting go which does (if people are to be believed) happen even on fully maintained vehicles in accordance with the schedule...and as such they would provide a retro-fit part fully tested and approved.

In fairness to Element888 he is offering to source an item that some people, having weighted up the pros and cons, are prepared to pay for. As I said, the best solution would be a factory part which Volvo could no doubt destruction test, with the resources available to them: only their rationale for not doing so is understandable.

Motorcyclists regularly fit 'crash bungs' to bikes: they may save your bike from extensive fairing and frame damage; they may just bend the frame or snap an integral part of it...you pay your money and you take your choice.

Just my take on it.

[Element888]

Nobody is slagging you off. In theory it's a great idea, but changing your belts and tensioners when they're due is the best way to ensure that the aux belt doesn't snap and take out the timing belt.. £55 for a small piece of metal and a couple of screws is expensive, but if it was proven that it will definitely prevent the timing belt from getting taken out by a snapped aux belt, it would possibly be a good investment.

I will have to disagree on this. Changing your belts and tensioners will not protect you from this. Yes, I can proove this on my own engine. My belts, tensioners, alternator pulley were about 5k miles old - still alt belt snapped and took timing belt out.
I do agree - changing belts and tensioner will minimise chances of this happening, but will not exclude this. My theory is - either design of alt belt system/tension is wrong on D5 engines or this happens, when some dirt, small rocks get on belt and under tesioner, then belt snaps.
This extra protector will minimise changes of aux belt getting into timing belt area.
Also it will help if people use genuine Volvo belts. According to my Internet research Volvo belts tend to snap in one piece and just fall off. Other aftermarket belts for some reason snap in many pieces and tangle around timing belt. Again - this is not 100% proven.

[Element888]

Pictures - How Timing Belt Guard Works

[JRL]

Interested as has already been said £55 isn't even a tank full of go juice. Had my belts and tensioner all changed when I got the car nearly three years ago. Mileage then was 108.000, now 123.000.

All genuine Volvo but what concerns me is the basic design behind this. If one belt braking can take out another belt which then scraps the engine there is something badly wrong. And yes I know it isn't only Volvo but that really isn't the point. It's a Volvo that I drive now.

My own personal experience (not with Volvo) is that buying genuine does not always guarantee quality. So count me in.

[Element888]

Hi folks.
So far I have received requests from 6 forum members.
Expected delivery is end of March, first week of April.
I will start collecting monies when items are with me.
Payment will be via Paypal with your postage details in notes.
If you are still interested in this item and would like to order one - leave your note on this thread or vai PM to me, but it will be delivered via next batch, which will probably be some time end of April.